Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:42:06 -0700

+1

On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:36 PM, David Blevins wrote:

I personally don't know why we bother to regenerate that tree on every build as those schemas are not going to change.  Let's just build them once, publish the jars, delete the schemas and be done with it.

-David

On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, David Jencks wrote:


On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

If they are only used during the build process, then don't re-distribute
and therefore this issue then seems out of the critical path for 1.1.1
and can be solved for 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1

They are not needed at runtime, but xmlbeans packs the source schemas into the jar with its other binary artifacts.  We might be able to prevent their inclusion into our jars, but I don't see how having them in svn is not redistribution, so I think we need allowable copies of the j2ee 1.4 schemas in our svn.

thanks
david jencks

gier


Matt Hogstrom wrote:
They are used by XMLBeans during the build process.  I guess we could do
a one-time generation of the XMLBeans classes but I'd be more
comfortable with Jencks' input.  If you don't have the schemas you'd
have to have network connectivity to build I suspect.

Aaron Mulder wrote:
Can't we just ship without those?  We have pointers to them on our web
additional reason we need them at runtime (e.g. does XMLBeans use the
actual schema to validate at runtime)?

Thanks,
    Aaron

On 8/18/06, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All,

For those wondering where the Geronimo 1.1.1 release is at here is a
quick summary and battle plan.

John Sisson discovered that we have several DTD and XSDs included in
our build that are copies of
Sun's original material.  The copyright in the material seems to
indicate that we cannot
redistribute the content.  Unfortunately, as Geir has pointed out,
that there is no clear way to
interpret the license and we should manually generate these to stay
legal and avoid any appearance
of impropriety.

The documents in question reside in both the distribution of the
source as well as the server
itself.  It appears that other open source and commercial vendors do
distribute these documents in
their original form but the ASF does not have a clear indication that
we can follow this same
practice.  You can find the documents in
$G_BUILD_TREE/modules/j2ee-schema/src/* as well as the
distributions in $G_DIST/schema/* directories.

The documents are identified in JIRA

I'd like to ask anyone that has some spare moments to help out with
putting these together.
Basically, you need to refer to the appropriate specification and
type in the XML exactly like it is
represented for actual elements and either omit or paraphrase the
information embedded in comments
so we do not violate Sun's copyright.

I know this is frustrating but for their own reasons Sun has imposed
this unfriendly copyright and
we need to abide by it.  We are protecting The ASF, Geronimo and our
users.

If you are working on a document please update the above JIRA to
indicate it is partial so others
can see what remains.  Please check the new schemas into their
respective replacements.  When the
replacements are complete we'll build a new distribution and run it
through a full CTS test to
validate our work.

Please also consider working with a partner so you can cross check
each other's work.

Thanks in advance for your patience and help with this important issue.

Also, if others have input into the process that I have missed please
provide it as well.

Thanks to John and Geir for discovering and mediating on this issue.










-sachin

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