If I was creating new server instances, I'd like to always start with a "known" var/config.xml

The other thought with preserving the base /var files in a jar/zip - it allows an admin/root user to install the base server files and then allow users to create their own instances by extracting the JEE5 or Minimal var jar/zip bundle (or a custom bundle that their IT guys create per dept or project.)

Either way works for me, as we can always create a Java or JMX wrapper for creating/deleting instances in a future release.


-Donald

Jason Dillon wrote:
Actually, what is in var that needs to be so pristine? Stuff put into var dirs are generally very dynamic and heavily state driven... not sure why that would need to be kept pristine across instances... sans the log4j configuration files, which really belong in an etc/ or conf/ and no in var/...

--jason


On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Donald Woods wrote:

What about creating a jar/zip of the var directory when the assembly is created, so you always have a pristine copy and could easily use a script to unjar/unzip it into a new directory via the user's JVM?


-Donald

Anita Kulshreshtha wrote:
--- David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree. I don't think normal geronimo startup should involve copying stuff from one location to another to set up a new server location.
    This is needed because we need to keep a pristine copy of 'var'
directory to create additional instances of geronimo. A user should be
able to use the installed image _any_ time to create additional
instances. In other words we need two copies of 'var' directory, one to
create additional instance and one to start the 'base server'. We could
either create var and geronimo/var at build time or copy 'var' to
geronimo/var when the image is used to start geronimo very _first_
time.
  Thanks
Anita
   We could build some kind of admin server to manage setting
up/removing server "clones" but I don't think it should be part of the base server normal startup path. If I've misunderstood what you
are proposing please complain :-)

thanks
david jencks

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:

--jason


On Apr 25, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Anita Kulshreshtha wrote:

   On a closer inspection this alternative (2) does not look so
attractive. IIUC, The classes to determine the geronimo install
directory and directory copy are available in system module. Either we duplicate the code in kernel or wait till later (after booting kernel,
loading bootstrap configuration..) to fail if the instance data is

not
found.
   Yet another alternative (3) is to modify the build and create a
geronimo/var and make 'var' read only.

Thanks
Anita

--- Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

+1

I think the platform scripts should be as thin as possible

-dain

On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

..............................
 and then just die
quickly if the directory is missing with an informative error
message to that effect.

--jason


On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Anita Kulshreshtha wrote:

  The other option is to update MainConfigurationBootstrapper
as
follows:
1. if geronimo.org.apache.geronimo.server.name system property
is
not
set, set it to 'geronimo'.
2. If 'geronimo' dir does not exist, create one and copy 'var'
to
it.
3. do the rest...


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