Rereading this again, I think I might have misinterpreted a bit.  To make
sure I understand it now, a user could contribute a single page by providing
a "patch" in a jira without needing to gain contributor status?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Jason Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd be more inclined to do something akin to what Erik suggested.  I'm
> concerned that the process to gain access to editing the wiki would deter
> many of the people that add a page here and there that describes something
> they've done.  A number of our contributions come from people who are just
> making a one time edit.  I can't imagine many of them would go through the
> effort to gain contributor access to add a single page.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik B. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I agree that we definitely need to address IP issues around
> > documentation/the wiki... but isn't there any way to accomplish this without
> > adding barriers to users editing content?
> > Can we do something like wikipedia does for editing content where there
> > is a checkbox or a notice or something saying
> > "You agree to license your contributions under the Apache Software
> > License" (similar to how JIRA is currently)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Erik B. Craig
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Kevan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > > To properly protect the IP rights of our Wiki-based documentation, we
> > > need to stop allowing unrestricted write access to our Wiki. Wiki
> > > contributors should be required to have an ICLA on file with the ASF. I 
> > > also
> > > think that we need to hold a PMC vote before granting this access.
> > >
> > > I'll also take this opportunity to remind the community that Wiki
> > > updates are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] These updates need to be
> > > reviewed by the community, just like all code updates.
> > >
> > > IMO, we don't want this to be a heavy-weight process. We don't want
> > > there to be a significant hurdle to contributing documentation. For code
> > > updates, patch files attached to Jira's with the "Grant license to ASF"
> > > button checked takes care of these IP concerns. To my knowledge, there's 
> > > no
> > > patch file equivalent for updates to a Wiki. We could require that
> > > documentation updates be contributed in the form of simple ascii text 
> > > files
> > > that are attached to a Jira. This would address our IP concerns, but is 
> > > not
> > > ideal IMO.
> > >
> > > To keep this as light-weight as possible, I propose we formalize the
> > > concept of "contributor". A contributor would have write access to our 
> > > Wiki
> > > documentation as well as the ability to assign Jira's to him/herself.
> > >
> > > I think the process would go something like this...
> > >
> > > 0. Reset write access to our wiki to be only the current set of
> > > committers on the project.
> > >
> > > 1. New documentation contributions from non-committers/contributors
> > > must be submitted via a Jira, with the "Grant License to the ASF" box
> > > checked. This is just like any code/bug-fix submission.
> > >
> > > 2. Once a new participant has expressed interest in contributing to
> > > the project and/or has contributed documentation or bug fixes, a PMC vote
> > > will be called to grant the new participant "contributor" rights. As all 
> > > PMC
> > > votes, this vote is a majority vote, require a minimum of 3 +1 votes, and
> > > will last for a minimum of 72 hours.
> > >
> > > 3. Once a vote has passed, the participant will be invited to join the
> > > project as a 'contributor'.  Assuming he/she accepts, the participant must
> > > then submit an ICLA to the ASF.
> > > Once the ICLA is on file, the new 'contributor' will give given write
> > > access to our wiki and the ability to assign Jira's.
> > >
> > > 4. The new contributor will be announced to the community.
> > >
> > > I've grouped Jira rights with wiki rights in the above. This is not
> > > strictly necessary, but grouping the two seems like a reasonable step.
> > >
> > > This is my first pass at a proposal. We can tweak this process in a
> > > number of ways and there are alternatives. I think the hard requirements 
> > > are
> > > 1) the PMC must vote and 2) an ICLA must be filed with the ASF.
> > >
> > > Until we resolve this issue, we need to restrict Wiki write access to
> > > be the current set of Geronimo committers.
> > >
> > > --kevan
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Jason Warner




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~Jason Warner

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