By the way, I volunteer to help admin these beasts.
On May 19, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Kevan Miller wrote:
Has anybody talked to Infra about virtualization environments,
restrictions, guidance?
I exchanged some emails with Justin Erenkrantz and asked about the
VM issue. He mentioned that they had VMWare Workstation on one
machine. In general, I have the impression that they aren't as
concerned about the VM images/environment if we are controlling the
machines. However, I suspect we'll get a better feel for that once
we submit a request and see their response.
K.
Only 4 VM images? With an 8 core, I thought we'd try to allocate a
VM per core...
I thought about one per core but ended up with 2 just in case we
need it for other related activities. This was also in line with
what Matt was recommending. If we increase the # of VMs we would
also need to up the memory and possibly diskspace and that really
started to look excessive to me. I was just trying to give a high
level description of our plans for the machines. I don't think this
limits us to just 4 VMs. Perhaps instead of requesting additional
machines later on we could add any additional resources to get more
VMs active on the first 2 machines.
OK. So, this number isn't laid in stone. We'll be tweaking to maximize
our throughput and usage.
--kevan
On May 19, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here
is the latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's
questions. I plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or
so ... so please speak up if you think of anything additional.
Thank you,
Joe
Rationale:
The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution
and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which
are necessary
to
gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is only
available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun
NDA and other Apache committers that have signed the NDA and
gained approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is
becoming a resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also
other ASF projects.
Not sure what is meant by the last sentence.
In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on
private machines by individuals. As more people become involved
with Apache Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious
that we need a central system to run and share the results of
these tests.
A centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to
more fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't have
access to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK tests
in a timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private machines
has occurred, this is not ideal from a community perspective.
Community controlled systems allow us to equitably share these
resources.
--kevan
Request:
To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting
the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can
be used for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two
(2) machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification
below. However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in
the not too distant future.
Machine specs:
- 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
- 16 GB memory
- two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
- DVD R/W (20x?)
- rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
- LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
- to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
- Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
- configuration
- backup/recovery
- secure access
- Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and
approved by Geronimo PMC.
- full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
directions
- At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
- Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
- We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
- It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
- Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute
tests, and produce reports.
- Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be
supported.
