Maven 3 seems to be coming soon since Maven 3.0-beta-1 was recently released.
However, progress on Mercury (the new maven dependency resolver) seems to have
stopped indefinitely [1].  So Maven will continue to use the current resolver
for the near future at least until 3.1 or 4.0.

[1]http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=941373

Jason Porter wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense Hans, well written.  Now if Jason Van Zyl
> and team could get Maven 3 and Mercury out the door :)
> 
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 15:46, Hans Dockter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Jason,
>> I see your point with Ivy.
>> There are a couple of objectives we want to meet:
>> - 100 percent compatibility with Ivy for resolving/publishing to an Ivy
>> repository (We provide this already)
>> - 100 percent compatibility with Maven 3 for resolving/publishing to a Maven
>> repository. (We almost provide this. As you pointed out there are some
>> issues when reading for certain poms. But they will be fixed when switching
>> to an Ivy/Mercury combo)
>> - Gradle wants to be strategy agnostic. Whether Ivy, Maven, a dir on the
>> file system or a custom metatdata format. In Gradle all approaches should be
>> able to be first class citizen in a build. (We support this to some degree.
>> Custom metadata formats would be pretty hard to acoomodate at the moment).
>> - Gradle's domain layer for describing your metadata wants to provide its
>> very own abstractions completely independent of any other metadata format.
>> It needs to be rich enough to easily map to Ivy/Maven for reading and
>> publishing. We have gone some way on this route but there is more to do. For
>> example to provide our own repository abstractions instead of using native
>> Ivy classes (even if the Ivy classes are often hidden right now behind
>> convenience methods like mavenCentral()).
>> In general I think our current dependency handling is OK. But there is a lot
>> of flexibility we will be able to provide by adding more of the right
>> abstractions. It should be easy for example to use source archives as
>> dependencies. They would get build as part of the resolution.
>> For most of the stuff only the Gradle domain model should be important to
>> our users. What technologies we use under the hood is an implementation
>> details. This is our safest bet for the future. And stuff is tailored to be
>> used via our DSL. Only if you want to do metadata specific customizations
>> you can apply the Maven/Ivy plugin (the latter does not exists yet). In this
>> case Gradle will provide the native domain objects of the respective
>> technology which you then will be able to manipulate.
>> - Hans
>> --
>> Hans Dockter
>> Founder, Gradle
>> http://www.gradle.org, http://twitter.com/gradleorg
>> CEO, Gradle Inc. - Gradle Training, Support, Consulting
>> http://www.gradle.biz
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Jason Porter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> I was going through the Ivy archives and it looks like there's only
>>> one active committer now.  It's a great project, but seems to be
>>> losing steam and people.  They haven't cut a release since October
>>> 2009 but may be working on one now.  Seven months between releases is
>>> a bit excessive IMO.
>>>
>>> In talking with Hans and also Jason Van Zyl it looks like Maven
>>> Mercury (this will eventually be the core of all things that are
>>> artifacts in maven and will be a stand alone lib) is at least three
>>> weeks out (probably more though).  I'd love to see that used in Gradle
>>> so we're always compatible with poms (without having to manually
>>> specify each dep in a client module), but it's not publicly available
>>> to even start looking at integration :(
>>>
>>> The current Ivy 2.1.0 has problems with poms that are newer (Maven
>>> 2.0.9+) because of tags that Ivy does not recognize, so artifacts that
>>> are created with these newer poms do not resolve correctly.  I
>>> currently only see two options for fixing this:
>>>
>>>  1.  Upgrade to a SNAPSHOT of ivy trunk
>>>  2.  Integrate maven 2 / maven 3 into gradle for artifact resolution
>>> (this is not a simple task from my exploration)
>>>
>>> I think the Ivy idea is a better route for the short term (possibly
>>> 0.9 release or 0.9 preview 2).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Porter
>>>
>>> Software Engineer
>>> Open Source Advocate
>>>
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