> On 13 Jan 2014, at 7:07, Szczepan Faber <szczepan.fa...@gradleware.com> wrote:
> 
> Not sure how would java help here. The problem is that we assume that root 
> project has idea plugin - this assumption can be coded in java or in groovy 
> (btw. this is a fairly sane assumption, I don't know of any use cases that 
> support not having idea applied to root).
> 
> I generally agree with your conclusion, it's just I don't think this example 
> supports it well.

The error message would say that no task could be found, not that some property 
could not be found on some internal type.

> 
> When idea plugin configures for scala it requires idea to be applied to root 
> (given current implementation). This requirement needs to be checked properly 
> and decent error presented to the user otherwise. I've hit this issue in 
> past, too. Time to fix this puppy ;)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Luke Daley <luke.da...@gradleware.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't mean to be inflammatory by my subject. This is not an attack on 
>> Groovy.
>> 
>> I just tried to upgrade a project to Gradle 1.10 and was greeted with this 
>> error: “Could not find property 'ideaProject' on task set.”
>> 
>> Tracked it down to this: 
>> https://github.com/gradle/gradle/blob/master/subprojects/ide/src/main/groovy/org/gradle/plugins/ide/idea/IdeaPlugin.groovy#L177
>> 
>> “project.rootProject.tasks.ideaProject” will produce this error the IDEA 
>> plugin isn't applied to the root.
>> 
>> Because of our many layers of dynamic indirection, the error messages when 
>> using DSL style Groovy in infrastructure can be not very clear. This isn't 
>> Groovy's fault. It's that using Groovy in our infrastructure makes it 
>> tempting to go the shortest (untyped) path and this is susceptible to obtuse 
>> error messages and bad user experiences. If we'd used Java in _this_ 
>> particular instance we'd have had a better error message.
>> 
>> Granted that we should also strive to make the error messages better for DSL 
>> users so there's a balance here of course. For core infrastructure though, 
>> I'm for us taking on the pain of writing in Java if it helps the user 
>> through better error reporting.
>> 
>> --
>> Luke Daley
>> Principal Engineer, Gradleware
>> http://gradleware.com
>> 
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