Ok, then I better see the argument for the merge, but...

Why not move it out of apache then?  Is that possible?

Otherwise we are adding 30 issues and 1 PR to the already 812 open issues in 
grails-core


On 2026/08/19 07:01:09 Mattias Reichel wrote:
> > Is this repo currently subjected to Apache rules?
> 
> Yes, the grails-quartz plugin is already an Apache project.
> It is also the last outstanding Grails plugin that was brought over to
> Apache that has not been incorporated into the grails-core monorepo.
> 
> Scott, I share your concern about the size of grails-core (and have
> for every new inclusion).
> However since this is the last separate Apache plugin, I think we
> should just add it and reap the benefits of having it added.
> It's not a big addition, like spring-security was.
> 
> +1 (binding)
> 
> Den tis 18 aug. 2026 kl 21:14 skrev Scott Murphy Heiberg
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> > -1
> >
> > 1. Every time we add to grails-core, it makes the entire build process 
> > slower and more flaky. I have yet to create a single PR that resulted in a 
> > stable build even though it ran locally on my machine.   I have wasted 
> > hours and hours of my time going through very long stack traces that are 
> > just the result of a flaky build.  Then re-running the build and having to 
> > wait hours just to find out there was nothing wrong with the tests in the 
> > first place?  We need to stabilize the build process before adding anything 
> > more to it.
> >
> > 2. Is grails-quartz an integral part of grails-core? I would argue no.  I 
> > would even argue there are better modern alternatives than quartz.  This 
> > goes against the principle of SOC and just continues to grow a repo that is 
> > already struggling to maintain control.   Is this repo currently subjected 
> > to Apache rules?  If not, should it be or is it better to keep it free and 
> > independent?
> >
> > 3. Probably most important, PRs now go for weeks on grails-core without 
> > reviews.  Adding another repo and subjecting it to a more stringent 
> > approval process is a step backwards for the quartz plugin itself.  
> > Currently grails-core has 78 PRs spanning several months 
> > https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pulls  Anyone voting to add more 
> > projects to grails-core, should first consider reviewing the 78 PRs we 
> > currently have open.
> >
> > 4. If I run a full sweep build on my MacBook M4 MAX, it frequently 
> > overheats and crashes my laptop to the point I have to force restart it. 
> > Adding more to the build is just going to make it worse and add more to 
> > github actions that currently take ~6 hours to get green.
> >
> > 5. There are tests and components in grails-core/ currently that don't even 
> > build, are unused, and completely broken.  We should focus on cleaning up 
> > or fixing all the dead code. My fear is this will just add to that in the 
> > long term.
> >
> > In summary, I would be +1 if
> > 1. GitHub actions were stabilized and build actually worked
> > 2. GitHub actions could be completed in 1 hour or less.
> > 3. Outstanding PRs were actively reviewed or rejected.
> >
> > On 2026/08/16 14:47:04 James Daugherty wrote:
> > > Per https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj2npk1mnm4wynx8y8l3o7yz4hvfbf7v ,
> > > I propose we merge grails-quartz
> > > (https://github.com/apache/grails-quartz) into grails-core
> > > (https://github.com/apache/grails-core).
> > >
> > > Please vote:
> > >
> > > +1 yes
> > > +0 abstain
> > > -1 no (explain)
> > >
> 

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