The subject for this should have said 2026-10-28, the meeting was last
night.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 3:13 PM James Daugherty <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>
> Action Usage
> * https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1792520326623569
> * https://github.com/apache/datafusion/issues/25088
> * https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16779
> * Airflow intends to share its setup for self-hosted runners. Grails will
> wait for that work and then adopt it.
>
>
> Incremental Compilation Fix for grails.factories
> * https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16780
> * 8.0 or 8.1? 8.0 means we may be able to turn on cached CI sooner once
> upstream Gradle changes are adopted, if they are.
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16781#discussion_r4393103167
> * Merge, or fix this before merging?
> * Data binding change; we need more reviewers on this one.
>
>
> grails-micronaut release process failure
> * https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/poqnkl67g1ko12576zvphbjs0zrt6odn
> * https://github.com/apache/grails-core/discussions/16672
> * James Fredley pushed forward but will not have more time this week.
>
>
> CVEs
> * External
>   -
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/actions/workflows/vulnerability-scan.yml
>   - 7.x.x and 8.0.x have been updated since the last releases.
>
>
> PR Breakdown for Release Discussion
> * 7.0.x (4)
>   - #16726 Publish nothing from a CI run cancelled before its builds
> finish, and correct the CI policy docs
>   - #16771 7.0 (fix): Hold the list of an indexed key in the nested map
> that owns it
>   - #16772 7.0 (fix): Export the entries of a map written by map
> subscripts once, in brackets
>   - #16784 Fix outer session connection closure and exception handling in
> withNewSession
> * 8.0.x (25)
>   - #16516 Fix when render(template:) throws "Could not resolve view"
>   - #16545 Documentation updated for Java 25 memory requirements
>   - #16559 Hibernate 7: Honour the join type of nested association blocks
> in criteria queries
>   - #16573 Fix when H7 createAlias joins the association twice and ignores
> the join type for the alias
>   - #16624 Validate the constraints block of Bean Validation annotated
> domain classes and expose their constraints
>   - #16627 Fix private trait field access in TraitPropertyAccessStrategy
>   - #16719 Keep a parenthesized HQL scalar query from being typed as the
> domain class
>   - #16720 Resolve every column of an enum unique-group member
>   - #16721 Unwrap every Groovy proxy layer when resolving a GORM API
>   - #16722 Read spring.messages.basename with Binder so a list is not
> dropped
>   - #16723 Query multi-tenant load and proxy only in discriminator mode
>   - #16725 Docs: Add the mongodb-developer skill and scoped agent guides
> for build-logic and grails-gradle
>   - #16736 Bind flattened dataSource.properties from the Spring Environment
>   - #16756 Hibernate 7: Write the rows of lists and maps that share a join
> table
>   - #16763 Hibernate 7: Prevent outer session connection closure during
> nested withNewSession lazy loading
>   - #16773 Hibernate 7: Fix subquery correlation with top-level
> association blocks
>   - #16780 Incremental Compilation Support for grails.factories
>   - #16781 Fix data binding re-evaluating domain constraints on every bind
>   - #16786 Give a task a copy of the request once the request completes
> * 8.1.x (3)
>   - #15956 Seed URL mappings index with runtime fallback
>   - #16000 Add optional artefact index reader for startup scanning
>   - #16510 Address #15956 review: Package-private URL mappings index reader
> * 9.0.x (4)
>   - #16180 Start Grails as a native image without recorded metadata,
> checked by an end-to-end i18n module
>   - #16583 Validate a unique group with a null value against the rows
> whose group value is null
>   - #16732 Treat a dotted configuration key past a value that is not a map
> as absent
>   - #16760 Let Spring Boot register the character encoding filter
> * Decision: Call for votes for 7.0.x, 7.1.x, 7.2.x, 8.0.1, 8.1.0, and
> 9.0.0-M1 24 hours after merging the 7.x PRs. GitHub Actions and the
> IntelliJ plugin need votes too.
>
>
> CI Policy Change discussion of changes from #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673) to #16726 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16726)
> * [skip tests] on pull requests
>   - What's new: Before #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673), the marker only worked
> on pushes. The old check read github.event.head_commit.message, which a
> pull request run doesn't have, so a PR's tests always ran. After #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673), the policy reads the
> PR's head commit, so a contributor can skip the tests of their own PR. That
> includes PRs into 8.0.x and above, where tests otherwise always run.
>   - Example:
>     - A fork PR into 8.0.x has one commit titled: [skip tests] Fix X.
>     - PR run: Every test job is skipped. The build jobs show green, and
> the test jobs show as skipped. The "Tests did not run" notice appears only
> on the run's summary page. The reviewer can't override it because the
> marker wins over the run ci label.
>     - Merge: With a merge commit ("Merge pull request #N …"), the push
> runs the tests; that's James's point. A squash merge reuses the commit's
> title for a single-commit PR, so the commit is [skip tests] Fix X (#N), and
> the push skips the tests and publishes the snapshot anyway. A rebase merge
> keeps the commit unchanged, so the push skips them too.
>     - Result: That change never gets its own test run. The next push to
> 8.0.x tests it mixed in with later commits.
>   - The push half isn't new. Before #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673), [skip tests] anywhere
> in the message skipped a push's tests. Squash messages include every
> commit's message, so the old check was even easier to trigger. #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673) made the push side
> stricter: The marker must now start the first line. James's merge-commit
> argument is about this half. What's new is the PR half.
>   - Options:
>     - Leave it. Reviewers watch for the marker.
>     - Members only (Scott's idea). On a PR, the marker counts only when
> pull_request.author_association is OWNER, MEMBER, or COLLABORATOR.
> Committers keep the shortcut, and outside contributors can't skip their own
> tests. One caveat: A committer whose organization membership is private may
> show up as CONTRIBUTOR. That fails safe because their tests just run.
>     - Ignore the marker on PRs, as before #16673 (
> https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16673).
> * run ci on drafts
>   - It has nothing to do with publishing: PR runs never publish. The issue
> is that run ci does two jobs:
>     - The draft gate in every workflow: A draft runs nothing unless it
> carries run ci.
>     - A test request in ci-policy.yml: On any PR, run ci runs the tests
> even where the branch rule would skip them.
>   - PR into 8.0.x and above:
>     - Draft: Nothing.
>     - Draft + run ci: Full tests.
>     - Ready: Full tests.
>     - Ready + run ci: Full tests.
>   - PR into 7.0.x/7.1.x/7.2.x or a side branch:
>     - Draft: Nothing.
>     - Draft + run ci: Full tests.
>     - Ready: Build only.
>     - Ready + run ci: Full tests.
>   - For a draft below the default branch, there's no way to get the
> build-only run. To check that a draft backport into 7.0.x compiles, you
> either run the full matrix (hours of runner time) or mark it ready. Before
> #16673, every draft ran the full matrix, so nothing was lost; it's a gap in
> the new design, not a regression.
>   - The fix, if wanted: A separate run tests label for the test request,
> so run ci only opens the draft gate. A draft into 7.0.x with run ci would
> then get the build-only run. The cost is one more label, and run ci stops
> meaning "run the tests" on ready PRs into 7.x, which is how AGENTS.md and
> RELEASE.md describe testing a backport now. A draft with only run tests
> would also need run ci, unless every workflow's gate is changed too.
>

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