Den 2018-08-15 00:28, skrev Jennifer Strater:
Hi OC,

First, I agree with Paul and Andres that it would be nice to see how
well this works outside of groovy core. Hopefully, someone here can
help you make it a reality.

In addition, I would really appreciate it, if, in the future, you did
not use 'gentlemen' to address the entire mailing list.

Good point, and not very gentleman-like! Will 'ladies and gentlemen do'? :-)

H2
Gentleman, hopefully...

Best,
Jenn
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:28 PM, ocs@ocs <o...@ocs.cz> wrote:

Gentlemen,

some NPE-related problems of today brought me to re-interate one of
my older suggestions.

We have the so-called “safe navigation”[*], which in some cases
allows a null to be propagated out of an expression instead of
throwing a NPE. At the moment, it can be triggered for a particular
sub-expression (like property/method-call and, as of 3, newly also
indexing) using a question mark (e.g., “foo?.bar()” or
“foo?[bar]”).

Do please correct me if I am wrong, but far as I know, there still
are expressions which do not allow the “safe mode”, e.g.,
arithmetic (“a+b” etc). Furthermore, there are cases when one
simply wants a bigger block of code to contain only null-propagating
expressions and never NPE; in such case, using the question mark
syntax is both inconvenient and error-prone (for it is very easy to
forget one of the lot of question marks needed in such a code, and
then get an uncaught unwanted NPE).

For these reasons, I would suggest adding a new annotation, whose
name might be e.g., “ImplicitSafeNavigation”; it would simply
force a null-propagation to be implicitly and automatically used for
*all* expressions in the annotated scope, i.e., NPE would never be
thrown for them; for example:

===
@ImplicitSafeNavigation class Foo {
static foo(a,b,c,d,e) {
a.bar+b*c[d]<<e.bax() // just e.g.; would work with *any*
expression which NPEs today
}
}
assert null == Foo.foo(null,null,null,null,null)
===

I wonder whether this enhancement would be possible to implement in
some forthcoming Groovy release? Myself, I believe it would help
tremendously.

If feasible, then it is for a further discussion whether in the
scope of this annotation
(a) a safe-navigation syntax (“foo?.bar”) should be ignored as
superfluous;
(b) or, whether in this scope it should reverse the behaviour to
trigger an NPE anyway;
(c) or, whether it should be ignored as (a), and aside of that it
would be worth the effort (and technically possible) to add another
syntax to force NPE over a particular sub-expression (e.g.,
“foo!.bar”).

Thanks and all the best,
OC

[*] The name might not be quite apt, for propagating a null is not
inherently safer than NPEing; those are simply two different
approaches, both of which serve best in different circumstances. A
better name would be something like “null-propagating” or
“non-NPE” mode, I guess. Myself, I don't think we should change
the name though, for all are used to it.

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