I don't think anyone is suggesting we need a separate CoC. We just now have
a short para which shows the link to the ASF one:

https://github.com/apache/groovy/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md

Groovy has been very lucky to have on the whole a very friendly community.
I guess in any community you can have a wide range of views, a wide range
of views of what constitutes acceptable behavior, and a wide range of views
of what should be spelt out about civility. I see a CoC as being a line in
the sand at one end of a spectrum. My experiences in the Groovy community
is that we are at the other end of the spectrum entirely, but I don't want
to presume to speak for others who may be more sensitive. I don't think we
ever want a situation where we can't have robust discussions, but I see no
harm in being explicit that we should respect one another as we do.

Cheers, Paul.


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:21 PM Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ever since Linux Foundation started pushing the COC gags into ASF
> projects I kept wondering if people won't behave in civil manner - just
> like Paul has alluded to - unless they are explicitly told how to be
> good boys and girls?
>
> Let me ask a perhaps naive but a very honest question: why do we really
> need a COC? The ASF has some sort of it in the books already, why do we
> need a separate one?
>
> Is it because Microsoft's github requires a checkmark due to their
> virtue signaling being blown out of proportions? Or is it something else
> that I am missing?
>
> If you prefer a private reply - be my guest. I really want to know.
> Thank you!
> ----
> With regards,
>    Cos
>
> On 18.11.2020 02:47, Paul King wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We have been fortunate that most of the time, the discussions within
> > our community are very respectful, so I don't think we need to have an
> > elaborate discussion about a project-specific code of conduct. It seems
> > worthwhile though, pointing to the general code of conduct established
> > by the ASF[1] which I propose to do:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/1422
> > <https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/1422>
> >
> > Let me know if you see any possible improvements/issues.
> >
> > Thanks, Paul.
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
> > <https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html>
> >
>

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