Hi Jochen,

     I agree with you. The manpower is always a big problem...

     As for the Groovy 5 itself, I wonder what features we should add to the 
release. I think following Java's steps is right, but Groovy should have its 
own evolving plan. Also, I think polishing Groovy 4 is important too, e.g. 
fixing issues and improving performance.

Cheers,
Daniel Sun
On 2022/06/26 21:55:33 Jochen Theodorou wrote:
> On 26.06.22 19:39, Daniel Sun wrote:
> > AFAIK, quite a lot of Groovy users are still using Java 8 because their 
> > company have no plan to upgrade systems to run on Java 9+. It is especially 
> > common for bank systems I have been working on for years, so it's better to 
> > continue supporting Java 8 in Groovy 5 releases.
> 
> When is it likely for them to change? If we go by the Oracle extended
> support it would mean to have Java8 in till 2030.
> 
> if we had the manpower I would suggest making a java8 version of Groovy
> 5. But I think that is not realistic. It will be difficult to support
> deprecated/removed API. I mean it is a bit more than in the past where
> it was about backporting features to older Java versions or enabling
> language only features on older Java versions. The alternative would
> then be to not to support that feature anymore... like for example the
> SecurityManager. But would such a Groovy-Version still be useful in its
> current usage?
> 
> 
> bye Jochen
> 

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