A couple of inline comments but thanks for the pointers. I went ahead
without making changes for the current releases. :-)

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 1:31 AM Andres Almiray <aalmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Paul,
>
> I guess I'll have to create a map of tasks, their dependencies, and their
> behavior to have a better understanding of the release process.
>
> I can see that files are uploaded to an Artifactory instance
>  - https://jreleaser.org/guide/latest/reference/upload/artifactory.html
> for Zips
>  -
> https://jreleaser.org/guide/latest/reference/deploy/maven/artifactory.html
> for JARs, POMs
>
> Files are downloaded from Artifactory to later be synced to Maven Central
>

Later Groovy versions (4+) are reproducible and so shouldn't need this
double handling but the release scripts currently cater for both.


>  - https://jreleaser.org/guide/latest/reference/download/http.html
> download files
>  - https://jreleaser.org/guide/latest/reference/deploy/maven/nexus2.html
> deploy to MC. Status for close and release operations are polled
> automatically
>

Do you know whether after the release operation succeeds whether further
syncing/caching occurs before artifacts might actually show up?


> Release notes are populated with information provided by Jira. JReleaser
> doesn't offer this kind of integration yet, but it could do so in the
> future.
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Java Champion; Groovy Enthusiast
> https://andresalmiray.com
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/aalmiray
> --
> What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator.
> There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary,
> and those who don't.
> To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 12:57 AM Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:
>
>> As long as we use the release manager's Apache email address, the current
>> announcer sounds like it will be fine.
>> We currently wait until artifacts have synced with Maven Central before
>> sending the email.
>> Currently that's a manual step. See adhoc.gradle#checkMavenStatus. It
>> wouldn't be hard to tweak that though.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 2:30 AM Andres Almiray <aalmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Great. Thank you for that explanation. Saved me a lot of time searching
>>> :D
>>>
>>> At the moment the SMTP announcer can only configure a single sender,
>>> single message, multiple recipients.
>>> I could imagine the following scenarios:
>>>
>>> 1. multiple senders, same message
>>> 2. single sender, multiple messages
>>> 3. multiple senders, each one with different or shared message
>>>
>>> Do any of these make sense for Groovy given its current release
>>> settings? If so I'd have to add code to JReleaser to support them.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andres
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> Java Champion; Groovy Enthusiast
>>> https://andresalmiray.com
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/aalmiray
>>> --
>>> What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator.
>>> There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary,
>>> and those who don't.
>>> To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 2:26 PM Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andres,
>>>>
>>>> It's been on my TODO list to incorporate JReleaser where we can but I
>>>> haven't found the cycles to date.
>>>> Your suggestion is certainly a possibility!
>>>>
>>>> The release process (two phases to allow for ASF voting) is driven by
>>>> the Gradle scripts in:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/groovy-release/
>>>>
>>>> These in turn call into the normal build from
>>>> https://github.com/apache/groovy as needed.
>>>>
>>>> So, a PR (or two) could be against either (or both) of these repos.
>>>> In some ways it would be nice to drive everything from within the
>>>> groovy repo itself
>>>> but that isn't a thing for the next release!
>>>>
>>>> In terms of what happens now, phase2.gradle in the groovy-release repo
>>>> has the
>>>> announceReleaseOnSDKman task which ultimately triggers the current
>>>> tweet from sdkman.
>>>> The email is crafted by the proposeAnnouncementEmail task but currently
>>>> cut-n-pasted
>>>> by the release manager and sometimes adjusted by hand. It is sent to
>>>> the Groovy dev, users
>>>> and ASF-wide announce mailing lists.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment, we don't have the credentials for @ApacheGroovy (on
>>>> twitter) or
>>>> @apachegro...@fosstodon.org as info necessarily needed by release
>>>> managers
>>>> (though possibly we should).
>>>>
>>>> Also, in order for the email to the ASF announce mailing list to pass
>>>> through moderation,
>>>> it needs to be sent from an Apache email address. This isn't part of
>>>> the current automation.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to help where I can.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:48 PM Andres Almiray <aalmi...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> Though not strictly related to new features, what are your thoughts on
>>>>> configuring JReleaser for posting announcements to all supported
>>>>> distribution channels?
>>>>> The tool can post to Twitter, Mastodon, and send an e-mail via its
>>>>> SMTP announcers.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it makes sense, I can craft a PR which could be tested before the
>>>>> next release.
>>>>> Or given any time constraints we may test it after the next release :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andres
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> Java Champion; Groovy Enthusiast
>>>>> https://andresalmiray.com
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/aalmiray
>>>>> --
>>>>> What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator.
>>>>> There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand
>>>>> binary, and those who don't.
>>>>> To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 1:43 PM Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks, I might try to do a 4.0.9 late this week or early next
>>>>>> week. This is mostly to incorporate some OSGi fixes. It turns out all
>>>>>> Groovy 4 releases until now have a minor glitch for certain OSGi
>>>>>> environments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might also do a bump on 3_0_X if I have time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to get in any desired fixes or let me know if there are
>>>>>> reasons to push this back a little more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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