Hi Dave,

We (Groovy as sponsors/mentors) are following the general Incubator
procedures but updating as needed for Groovy being the sponsor:

https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html

That document has placeholders in some places, e.g. for disclaimer wording
it has
> Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP sponsor.

So we advised Grails to put "Apache Groovy" in there in place of "the name
of Apache TLP sponsor".

Other things are hard-coded as per the typical incubator setup, e.g.
sending certain emails to private@incubator which we adapt to
private@groovy. This isn't a criticism of that document, it is afterall, an
incubator policy document accounting for the usual case of incubator as
sponsor. But where it is an obvious change of incubator => groovy in that
document, that is what we do.

With regard to moving releases under incubator, for grails, would it
instead be under groovy since that is where the mentors have access to?
Does that sound right to you?

Cheers, Paul.



On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 4:11 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:

> I was confused about the location of the second vote due to the
> sponsorship of Groovy. Such arrangement is rare.
>
> https://downloads.apache.org/grails/ is still a problem to be fixed.
> Non-PMCs should not have top-level positioning in downloads and you must
> move the release to be under the incubator.
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> On 2025/06/20 18:02:03 Dave Fisher wrote:
> > Hi -
> >
> > Today I noticed grails here: https://downloads.apache.org/grails/
> >
> > 1. You voted on two projects at once.
> > 2. You did not request a second round of votes on
> gene...@incubator.apache.org
> > 3. You have misplaced your directories in
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/. These must be inside the incubator
> directory.
> >
> > Please:
> > Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/grails/ to
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/grails/.
> > Remove the release from
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ (you can move them
> back to dist/dev/incubator/grails/.)
> > Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ to
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/grails/.
> > Continue with your second round of votes on gene...@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
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