Hi Endre,

  In addition to providing a great license :-), Eclipse Foundation manages a 
set of open source projects...  Kindof like Apache.   For those projects 
managed directly in Eclipse, the foundation does IP review of any 3rd party 
content coming into the project.  I'm not a lawyer so I don't know all the ends 
and outs and I don't know the exact set of checks that are performed.  I do 
know the source code is reviewed via some mechanism though.  Review depends on 
the source of the material but always happens EVEN for integration of 
components with a compatible license such as Apache.  

  The two links I put in my previous post: 
<http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/ip-process-in-cartoons.php>
and
<http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/www/legal/EclipseLegalProcessPoster.pdf?hideattic=0&root=Eclipse_Website&view=log>
 provide more detail on the Eclipse side of the process.  I can say that they 
don't really review 3rd party content continuously, they just review the 
specific releases of the 3rd party content that are intended to be consumed by 
Eclipse projects.

  Sure, there is some pain involved here...  Eclipse has started a new project 
(Orbit) to try to pull together a lot of the more common 3rd party components 
used by Eclipse projects.  This particular request is not part of Orbit but it 
might be a good place to look for more details about Eclipse processes in this 
area if you're interested.  See http://www.eclipse.org/orbit.

Regards,
Chris Elford
Intel Software Solutions Group

And the alter ego:

Chris Elford
Eclipse TPTP PMC member

-----Original Message-----
From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Yaffe, Asaf
Subject: Re: [drlvm][verifier] Using the Harmony verifier code for computing 
the StackMapTable attribute

Elford, Chris L wrote:
> 
>  Unfortunately, we only acquired
> permission from Eclipse legal to use the M5 binary release so the fixes
> that are now in JIRA or head are unusable by us at this time.
> 
>   We can go back to the Eclipse legal for permission to use another
> release/milestone of Harmony. 

Seriously?!? What are these guys? Simply and only out to create work for 
themselves? We're talking about two serious open source projects here, 
and the Eclipse _legal_ have to review .. what, exactly? .. between 
milestone builds? What, specifically, do they _do_ during this review? 
Read, line by line, the SVN log or something?

(Be kind and note CAREFULLY: I have NOTHING to do with with Harmony - 
I'm just lurking around on these lists. I just found this post .. 
fascinating.)

Endre.

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