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Yes, The more I look at IT biz models, the more I worry about IT and Java
I also think that Apache must make sure their biz model is absolutely 
transparent.
Every project needs to be an island, so that if two projects are competing, 
Apache itself is nothing more than a delivery vehicle.
Java is living on a knife edge, Sun competing with Apache is I think very 
unhealthy.
If either wins, Java loses.

Users I think are becoming very aware that products materializing now are 
designed more as war tools, than for the betterment of Java. Clandestine biz 
models are not going to benefit anyone.
Somewhere trust has completely broken down.

Suns biz model, I really dont like, I think its preditory, but then Apache's 
biz biz model is a big unknown, so maybe Sun see's it as defending whats 
theirs... whatever the actual problem is, the current trend seems to be on the 
low road for Java.

Vote for Java, not who's going to win.
Harbor for us means just that... that unfortunately attracts a little hate mail.

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