Nathan, I agree with you that committers should be treated as sapient beings who may take decisions about the code they commit. The story on java.util.concurrent is a good example indeed. If my memory served me well we finally committed it into our repository, didn't we?
Thanks. On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Nathan Beyer <[email protected]> wrote: > That might be over-simplifying the issue. We've taken the concurrency > code without a submission - the code was asserted to be public domain. > What we're discussing isn't public domain, but, in theory, is a > compatible license. > > I believe the intent of the wiki article is to get new committers to > think about what they're doing, which seems to be working. > > -Nathan > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Alexei Fedotov > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Nathan, Jack, >> >> We have the following text at [1]. >> >>> Always remember that you can never commit code that comes from someone >>> else, even a co-worker. All code from someone else must be submitted by the >>> copyright holder (either the author or author's employer, depending) as a >>> JIRA, and then follow up with the required ACQs and BCC. >> >> Any committer who obey this statement cannot technically commit any >> code from Google because >> * it is not in JIRA; >> * we don't have required ACQ and BCC. >> >> Well, we might think of revising the statement. >> >> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/NewCommitter >> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alexei Fedotov >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I have studied Google CLG ("Contributor License Grant") documents >>> provided by Dan. >>> >>> <http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project> >>> <http://source.android.com/license/corporate-contributor-license---android-open-source-project> >>> >>> It seems that the "Project leads and [...] recipients of software >>> distributed by the Project Leads [..] get the patent license". How can >>> we prove that Apache is the recipient of software distributed by the >>> Project Leads? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Nathan Beyer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm not talking about a bulk contribution from Google folks. I'm >>>> talking about Harmony committers and contributors looking at the >>>> Android source and maybe taking a few lines here or there. Assuming >>>> it's licensed as ASLv2 and the provenance is able to be determined >>>> (likely Harmony > Android, then augmented under ASLv2), shouldn't it >>>> be acceptable? IANAL, so I'm posing the scenario. >>>> >>>> -Nathan >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Hello folks, >>>> > General Apache guidelines do not require much from a committer [1] except >>>> > from preserving the legal trail. Here in Harmony we invented more complex >>>> > legal stuff such as ACQ and BCC [2]. The only way to accept contribution >>>> > from Google is to get filled BCC and a set of ACQs from googlengineers. >>>> > The >>>> > good news are that the anti-plagiarism scan is optional, so the form >>>> > requires nothing except pure beauracy. >>>> > >>>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#applying-patches >>>> > [2] http://harmony.apache.org/bulk_contribution_checklist.html >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Aleksey Shipilev < >>>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Hi, Dan, Nathan! >>>> >> >>>> >> It's nice to hear, Dan! I'll check out the cupcake branch and report >>>> >> back. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Nathan Beyer <[email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > Assuming this is all ASLv2 code, there shouldn't be anything that >>>> >> > prevents Harmony committers [skip] >>>> >> And by committer you mean anyone who has ACQ and ICLA signed? >>>> >> >>>> >> I have doubts here... Should the patch issuer certify the origin of >>>> >> the patch? How can we be sure that (sorry, guys! ;) ) code coming from >>>> >> Android would not break the Harmony clean-room policy? >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> Aleksey. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > С уважением, >>>> > Алексей Федотов, >>>> > ЗАО «Телеком Экспресс» >>>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> С уважением, >>> Алексей Федотов, >>> ЗАО «Телеком Экспресс» >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> С уважением, >> Алексей Федотов, >> ЗАО «Телеком Экспресс» >> > -- С уважением, Алексей Федотов, ЗАО «Телеком Экспресс»
