2010/5/25 Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com> > On 25/May/2010 08:34, Jimmy,Jing Lv wrote: > > We are very close to publish Harmony5 M14 and Harmony6 M2, what > great > > achievements since we created Harmony project! > > +1 ! > > > Now we may think about something different, satisfy more > requirements. > > Different application requirement need different JRE - it may differ very > > much in class-lib modules, providers, and VMs. Harmony select, say, a > > smaller, more flexible harmony runtime, may be a good candidate in such > > environments. We may not follow Oracle/Sun exactly in this runtime, allow > > more innovations, different modules selections, and different > > functionalities to meet different requirements. We may also call for more > > input from real Java applications, developers, especially hot open-source > > projects who are the potential customers of Harmony. > > We have discussed this on and off a few times over a period of time. I > think the definition of which modules go into the Select runtime should > still be flexible as we discover what applications really use, and while > I agree that we can be innovative I also think we need to maintain the > precise API behavior of the SE builds so that Select is useful to > regular Java programmers. > > Agree indeed - Harmony Select should be flexible to the real requirements.
> > We've already created an initial target in Harmony to build a > Select > > binary. We remove some client-side related modules (like AWT, swing etc) > to > > reduce the size while keep the main functionality for server side > > applications. This is a startup, very far from the finial versions. > However > > I believe we can start some milestones with defined criterion like > standard > > Harmony. > > I've not been building regularly with the Select shape. I'd like to > have a run through to see how it looks. > > So I just need to use the regular source tree and build with > "ant -Dhy.select=true" > > right? > > Yes. And the current select build is very simple, still wondering if we can have a better solution for "flexible" builds. > > For the first milestone of Harmony-Select, I suggest we'd have > > following criterion: > > 1. build pass on both windows/linux platforms; > > 2. pass all Harmony unit testcases in the selected module on these > > platforms; > > 3. Choose Apache Hadoop as a real Application test, pass its common test > on > > these platforms for the first milestone. > > > > Wait for any kindly suggestions, opinions and comments. > > Maybe just semantics, but it is possibly too early to declare a > milestone. How about we publish some snapshots of Harmony Select on > it's own webpage (describing what it is) so people can try it. Once we > get into a position where it is useful for 1,2,3 above we can declare > milestones? > > I haven't consider that, great suggestion, thanks Tim! Yes we can make some snapshots (may publish if we have done the pre-work for unit testcases) available, and see how applications works on it. Will do. > Regards, > Tim > > > -- Best Regards! Jimmy, Jing Lv
