Hi Ted, I have nothing further to add.
Thanks to Roman for the perspective. Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White) ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Yu <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:37 PM > Subject: hadoop versions and HBase 0.92 Was: proper pace for JIRA integration > > Roman/Andy: > I think the following discussion is very helpful. > > Please keep the on-going discussion to public. > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Andrew, >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Yeah, DoA is harsh, when I meant more like "abandoned at > release". >> Similar to 0.21. >> > >> > Well that is my question, really. Is it? >> >> Personally, I don't remember 0.21 being deployed anywhere in >> production (I could be >> wrong and would love to be corrected). With 0.22 there's at least EBay >> and one other >> reasonably big shop I know of that will be deploying it to production >> clusters. >> Thus, IMHO, they are not similar in that regard. >> >> > We've heard that CDH4 is going to be start from something a lot > closer >> to 0.23 than 0.22, >> > that Hortonworks is committed to 0.23. It seems 0.23 is the future, > and >> a RC may be >> > happening as early as the end of this year, i.e. in the next month or > so. >> > >> > Given recent history and the above described commitments, I think > there >> is confusion about where/if 0.22 fits in. >> > People will work on what inspires them, but it seems the center of >> gravity has already moved beyond 0.22. >> > Is that a fair statement? >> >> From my point of view, it will be fair to call 0.22 a *stable* stop >> gap release before >> 0.23 matures. How long does the window of exposure for 0.22 last? Your >> guess is >> as good as mine. At times I wish that HDFS and MR2 release work in .23 >> were done >> as different projects. Take it with a grain of salt, but I believe >> that MR2 will be holding >> .23 back in terms of deployment. >> >> So here's the bottom line the way I see it: the worst that could >> happen to an OS project >> is to be a hostage of a NEXT great thing (KDE and other examples come to >> mind >> readily). When Hadoop 0.23 will be stable enough -- it will surely >> obsolete .22, in >> the meantime we will have .22 to fill the gap. >> >> > Then I'm sure the eBay guys will have that interest. :-) >> >> That's the beauty of Open Source. On the other hand, since you asked a >> "community" >> question I was compelled to point out that there would be a reasonably >> sizable community >> running .22/HBase. >> >> Thanks, >> Roman. >> >> P.S. Sorry for making this thread longer than it had to be. Lets take >> it off-list from this reply on. >> >
