Why don't we set up a webex to talk out the detail.  What times r u open to
talk this week.

But to answer your questions.  This is for active active and active
failover clusters.  There is a primary and n number of fail overs per
client.  This is for gets and puts.

There r a number of configs in the doc to define how to failover.  The
options allow a couple different use cases.  There is a lot of detail in
the doc and I just didn't want to put it all in the email.

But honestly I put a lot of time in the doc.   I would love to know what u
think.
On Jun 29, 2015 5:46 PM, "Michael Segel" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ted,
>
> If you can’t do a 30 second pitch, then its not worth the effort. ;-)
>
> Look, when someone says that they want to have a single client talk to
> multiple HBase clusters, that could mean two very different things.
> First, you could mean that you want a single client to connect to an
> active/active pair of HBase clusters where they replicate to each other.
> (Active / Passive would also be implied, but then you have the issue of
> when does the passive cluster go active? )
>
> Then you have the issue of someone wanting to talk to multiple different
> clusters so that they can query the data, create local data sets which they
> wish to join, combining data from various sources.
>
> The second is a different problem from the first.
>
> -Mike
>
> > On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Ted Malaska <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Michael,
> >
> > Read the doc please.  It goes through everything at a low level.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ted Malaska
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Michael Segel <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> No down time?
> >>
> >> So you want a client to go against a pair of active/active hbase
> instances
> >> on tied clusters?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Ted Malaska <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Michael,
> >>>
> >>> The use case is simple "No down time use cases" even in the case of
> site
> >>> failure.
> >>>
> >>> Now on this statement
> >>> "Why not simply manage each connection/context via a threaded child?"
> >>>
> >>> That is the point, to make that simple, tested, easy, and transparent
> for
> >>> HBase users.
> >>>
> >>> Ted Malaska
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Michael Segel <
> >> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So if I understand your goal, you want a client who can connect to one
> >> or
> >>>> more hbase clusters at the same time…
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, so lets walk through the use case and help me understand a couple
> of
> >>>> use cases for this…
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not simply manage each connection/context via a threaded child?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 29, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Ted Malaska <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey Dev List,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My name is Ted Malaska, long time lover and user of HBase. I would
> like
> >>>> to
> >>>>> discuss adding in a multi-cluster client into HBase. Here is the link
> >> for
> >>>>> the design doc (
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/tmalaska/HBase.MCC/blob/master/MultiHBaseClientDesignDoc.docx%20(1).docx
> >>>> )
> >>>>> but I have pulled some parts into this main e-mail to give you a high
> >>>> level
> >>>>> understanding of it's scope.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Goals*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The proposed solution is a multi-cluster HBase client that relies on
> >> the
> >>>>> existing HBase Replication functionality to provide an eventual
> >>>> consistent
> >>>>> solution in cases of primary cluster down time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://github.com/tmalaska/HBase.MCC/blob/master/FailoverImage.png
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additional goals are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Be able to switch between single HBase clusters to Multi-HBase Client
> >>>>> with limited or no code changes.  This means using the
> >>>> HConnectionManager,
> >>>>> Connection, and Table interfaces to hide complexities from the
> >>>> developer
> >>>>> (Connection and Table are the new classes for HConnection, and
> >>>>> HTableInterface in HBase version 0.99).
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Offer thresholds to allow developers to decide between degrees of
> >>>>> strongly consistent and eventually consistent.
> >>>>> - Support N number of linked HBase Clusters
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Read-Replicas*
> >>>>> Also note this is in alinement with Read-Replicas and can work with
> >> that.
> >>>>> This client is multi-cluster where Read-Replicas help us to be multi
> >>>> Region
> >>>>> Server.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Replication*
> >>>>> You will also see in the document that this works with current
> >>>> replication
> >>>>> and requires no changes to it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Only a Client change*
> >>>>> You will also see in the doc this is only a new client. Which means
> no
> >>>>> extra code for the end developer, only addition configs to set it up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Github*
> >>>>> This is a github project that shows that this works at:
> >>>>> https://github.com/tmalaska/HBase.MCC
> >>>>> Note this is only a prototype. When adding it to HBase we will use it
> >> as
> >>>> a
> >>>>> starting point but there will be changes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Initial Results:*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Red is where our primary cluster has failed and you will see from the
> >>>>> bottom to graphs that our puts, deletes, and gets are not
> interrupted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/tmalaska/HBase.MCC/blob/master/AveragePutTimeWithMultiRestartsAndShutDowns.png
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Ted Malaska
> >>>>
> >>>> The opinions expressed here are mine, while they may reflect a
> cognitive
> >>>> thought, that is purely accidental.
> >>>> Use at your own risk.
> >>>> Michael Segel
> >>>> michael_segel (AT) hotmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> The opinions expressed here are mine, while they may reflect a cognitive
> >> thought, that is purely accidental.
> >> Use at your own risk.
> >> Michael Segel
> >> michael_segel (AT) hotmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> The opinions expressed here are mine, while they may reflect a cognitive
> thought, that is purely accidental.
> Use at your own risk.
> Michael Segel
> michael_segel (AT) hotmail.com
>
>
>
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