Such a harassed individual can email private@ to raise awareness of their situation. They may not *know* they can do this, probably no more than they know they can restrict visibility of JIRA comments (as none of us realized this either), but they can.
I suggest we remove the capability from JIRA and add a "harassment" or similar section to our site with instructions for community members to report/escalate issues via appropriate Apache channels. -n On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> wrote: > So the primary scenario I can think of for non-public comments on jira > would be if one of our community members was dealing with harassment from > outside of our community. In that case, their visibility would draw in more > grief for themselves and our community generally. > > Unfortunately, the structure of ASF projects would still leave such a > person incapable of participating due to the public nature of all the rest > of our interactions. Their best coping mechanism would be to operate under > a pseudonym and in that case their jira comments need not be any less > public. > > Another data point: when non-public comments are deleted AFAICT there's no > visible record of the comment having existed even as a project > administrator (I presume there is still some record available to jira-wide > admins). So only folks watching the ticket will have an email record. > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I also think that's hard to justify. Anyone have a good reason? > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > A commenter expressly has to change the visibility when posting the > > > comment. > > > > > > -- > > > Sean > > > On Jul 29, 2015 5:59 PM, "Andrew Purtell" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I agree, JIRA comments should be exclusively public. Doesn't someone > > have > > > > to change comment visibility from default to restrict? Or did a > default > > > > change ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do we intentionally allow non-public comments on jira? > > > > > > > > > > That is, currently commenters on our issue tracker can choose to > > > restrict > > > > > their comments to the roles we've defined (like contributors, > > > developers, > > > > > project admins, etc). > > > > > > > > > > Comments so restricted do not go to the issues@hbase list and so > > > "don't > > > > > exist" from the asf's stated policies. > > > > > > > > > > My thinking is that any sensitive topics that need to be brought up > > > > already > > > > > have a mechanism: private@hbase. For anything else, speakers > should > > > > stand > > > > > by their words. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > > - Andy > > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > > (via Tom White) > > > > > > -- > Sean >
