Cool.  Don't mean to suggest this is a change or new, just thinking through
and writing down what I think I've observed and folks seem to be doing,
which makes sense.
I don't have the bandwidth at the moment to figure out the doc format and
go through the process to create a patch, but if any of the above is
helpful, would be happy for anyone inclined to get it into the doc.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Yes, those are the rules I applied.
>
> To clarify: Those are the rules I applied after going back and adding back
> fixversions such that the set {1.3.1, ...} becomes {1.4.0, 1.3.1, ...} as
> Sean suggested.
>
> Now, 1.4.0 was dropped only if there is a fixversion 1.3.0 in the set. And,
> 1.5.0 was dropped wherever we have 1.4.0 in the set,  and that is currently
> everywhere because at this moment branch-1.4 == branch-1, but will begin to
> diverge as soon as 1.4.0 is released.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, those are the rules I applied.
> >
> > While I was in there adjusting fixversions I noticed that generally we
> > follow exactly that approach for numbering. I think we inherit it from
> > Hadoop, because our old timers came from that community.
> >
> > Dave - Please consider submitting a patch for our online book for this,
> if
> > the text doesn't already exist in there somewhere.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Dave Latham <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 for making it as simple as possible to determine if a given fix is
> in a
> >> given release purely from the release numbers, without having to consult
> >> the dates of when branches were made or release candidates were built.
> >>
> >> I think the rules should be
> >>
> >> Fix version of X.Y.Z => fixed in all releases X.Y.Z' where Z' >= Z
> >> Fix version of X.Y.0 => fixed in all releases X.Y'.* where Y' >= Y
> >> Fix version of X.0.0 => fixed in all releases X'.*.* where X' >= X
> >>
> >> By this policy, fix version of 1.3.0 implies 1.4.0, but 1.3.2 does not
> >> imply 1.4.0, as we could not tell purely from the numbers which release
> >> came first.
> >>
> >> To track a fix then, I think that means that there should usually be a
> fix
> >> version added for each branch that a commit was pushed to, with the
> >> exception of master if there is a branch for the next major release that
> >> has not happened yet.
> >>
> >> I think this is probably just repeating what Sean was saying, but it was
> >> helpful for me to write out and perhaps helpful for others to think
> about.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Related, on HBASE-18996 Peter said:
> >> >
> >> > the fix version is not correct. It should include 1.5 too. Did you
> >> remove
> >> > that on purpose?
> >> >
> >> > and my response:
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I removed 1.5.0 for anything that is going out in 1.4.0. Fix
> >> versions
> >> > in HBase have historically meant the same thing as in Hadoop, which is
> >> "in
> >> > this release and any later". That said, I'm only touching fix versions
> >> for
> >> > branch-1. I won't presume to mess with fix version accounting for
> >> branch-2.
> >> > We have another RM tending to that.
> >> > ​At this point branch-1 (1.5.0) == branch-1.4 ​(1.4.0) so having both
> in
> >> > fixversions would be fine but redundant, and a future RM would have
> some
> >> > work to do. As things stood, they were horribly inconsistent, with
> many
> >> > 1.5.0 fixversions missing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > You mean put back the 1.4.0 fixversion for anything released in
> >> 1.3.1? I
> >> > > can do that. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Let me make a
> >> pass
> >> > > now.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any other suggestions?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I'd like to try convincing you to just drop issues that were in
> >> 1.3.0.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I assume that 1.4 will become our new stable line. Suppose that I
> am
> >> > >> running on our stable 1.2 release line. When considering an upgrade
> >> to
> >> > >> 1.4.z, which CHANGES files do I have to read to get a sense of
> what I
> >> > >> have to look out for in changes?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Presuming the 1.3.0 CHANGES files contains everything that changed
> >> > >> since 1.2.0, I could just read the 1.3.0 CHANGES and then the
> CHANGE
> >> > >> for the 1.4.z release I am aiming for (since it will have 1.4.0 -
> >> > >> 1.4.z in it).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If you use a later 1.3.z as the basis, then I have to find what the
> >> > >> last 1.3.z that had its RC created before 1.4.0. (a later one will
> >> > >> cover changes that are not included in 1.4.0 and might not be in
> any
> >> > >> 1.4.z yet)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Andrew Purtell <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> You may notice I'm dropping '1.4.0' from fix versions wherever
> we
> >> > have
> >> > >> >> something that went in to any 1.3.x. This is because I am basing
> >> the
> >> > >> >> CHANGES.txt changelog for 1.4.0 on the latest from branch-1.3,
> so
> >> > >> anything
> >> > >> >> that went in on branch-1.3 will be included in the changelog at
> >> the
> >> > >> correct
> >> > >> >> point in history. Anything in the 1.4.0 section of the changelog
> >> for
> >> > >> >> branch-1.4 will be for changes in branch-1.4 not in branch-1.3.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> > If 1.4.0 goes out before 1.3.2, does that mean, there will be
> fixes
> >> > that
> >> > >> > are in 1.4.0 (because they were committed post 1.3.1) not
> >> mentioned in
> >> > >> > 1.4.0 CHANGES.txt?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Seems fine. Just asking.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > St.Ack
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Best regards,
> >> > >> >> Andrew
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> >> > truth's
> >> > >> >> decrepit hands
> >> > >> >>    - A23, Crosstalk
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Best regards,
> >> > > Andrew
> >> > >
> >> > > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> truth's
> >> > > decrepit hands
> >> > >    - A23, Crosstalk
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >> > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> >> > decrepit hands
> >> >    - A23, Crosstalk
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> > decrepit hands
> >    - A23, Crosstalk
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
>    - A23, Crosstalk
>

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