Hi Geoffrey,

I have no complaints with shipping convenience binaries built against both
Hadoop2 and Hadoop3. The primary challenge is implementing the
necessary build changes, the secondary challenge is verifying/testing it
works reliably.

But for Phoenix, are you asking for convenience binaries, or are you asking
for artifacts published into maven that have the Hadoop3 profile activated
and specify the associated dependencies?

I'm afraid that the 2.5.0 release ship has already sailed. I've heard talk
of a 2.6 "fast-follow", so maybe someone can have the build changes ready
for that? Also, isn't this a too little, too late situation? Shouldn't we
shift our focus to releasing 3.0, which has dropped support for Hadoop2?

Thanks,
Nick

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 9:30 PM Geoffrey Jacoby <gjac...@apache.org> wrote:

> I see that the next HBase 2.5 RC is imminent, and before that's set in
> stone, I wanted to bring up the question of whether there will be official
> HBase 2.5 binaries built with the Hadoop 3 profile and available in the
> usual Maven repositories. (In addition to the usual Hadoop 2 profile
> binaries)
>
> The HBase 2.x line has a commitment to maintain support for Hadoop 2.x, but
> Hadoop 3.3 is the current stable Hadoop line and the most recent release
> notes [1] encourage all users of Hadoop  2.x to upgrade to Hadoop 3.
>
> Without convenience artifacts built against Hadoop 3, no end-users with
> Hadoop 3 clusters will be able to use the Apache-distributed binaries and
> will instead have to recompile HBase from source themselves, or use a 3rd
> party distribution that does so for them.
>
> This is especially inconvenient for downstream projects such as Apache
> Phoenix, which has never  officially supported the HBase 2.x / Hadoop 2.10
> combination. (It currently supports only HBase 2.3 or 2.4 with Hadoop 3.
> HBase 2.5 support will be added very shortly after its release as part of
> Phoenix 5.2.)
>
> To even run the Phoenix IT tests locally requires contributors to download
> the HBase source release and manually mvn install to their local maven repo
> using the Hadoop 3 profile, to avoid crashes in the HBase minicluster.[2]
> This is a barrier to new contributors and confuses even veteran ones, and
> has to be done again for every new HBase release.
>
> In general, I expect the Hadoop 3 user base to grow and the Hadoop 2.10
> user base to shrink with every future HBase 2 release, so I think this is a
> worthwhile improvement.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoffrey
>
> [1] https://hadoop.apache.org/release/3.3.4.html
> [2] https://github.com/apache/phoenix/blob/master/BUILDING.md
>

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