Heya,

Now that we have this repo, we need to establish some basic release
processes around it. I propose:
 - We need a new version numbering scheme for releases from this
repository. For hbase-third-party, we have simply "thirdparty-". For all
the other repos, we use the entire repository name as the release version
prefix. I propose that we adopt the prefix "hbase-kustomize-" for this
repository's releases.
- We need a release scheme for this repository. We also need to define what
a release means in terms of compatibility guidelines. This is an
orchestration definition -- essentially, a data structure that represents
the serialized state of a Kubernetes cluster's API -- so its definitions of
compatibility will likely deviate a bit from our existing definitions.
Until we've sorted this out (a dedicated DISCUSS thread, once someone can
make a proposal), I propose we use a simple incrementing 0.x versioning
scheme for any release tags we produce.

Based on these first two points, I propose that we start with an initial
JIRA fixVersion of "hbase-kustomize-0.1".

(As a separate topic, we may also want to unify this version number prefix
across our repositories, by using "hbase-thirdparty-" as that repo's
version prefix going forward.)

What do you think?

Thanks,
Nick

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 7:18 PM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’ve created this repository.
>
> Unless there is an objection, I’ll push an initial commit with a LICENSE
> file so that there’s a baseline to make PRs against.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 18:30, Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone who has replied.
>>
>> If there are no further concerns raised over the weekend, I’ll get
>> started on Monday with Infrastructure to provision the new repository.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 18:08, Peter Somogyi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the new repository.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 5:33 PM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > +1 for hbase-kustomize
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 4:44 AM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > >
>>> > > As I work through the integration of these kustomize definitions
>>> into the
>>> > > existing java project structure that is hbase-operator-tools, I'm
>>> > > increasingly of the opinion that this is too much of a clash of
>>> > concerns. I
>>> > > think that this contribution would make better sense as its own
>>> > repository
>>> > > with its own release cycle. I'm neither aware of nor can I imagine a
>>> > > technical coupling between the kustomize resources and the rest of
>>> the
>>> > > utilities in operator-tools. Likewise, this change set introduces new
>>> > > requirements (docker, buildx, KinD and/or minikube) to the build and
>>> test
>>> > > environment that are not otherwise needed by operator-tools.
>>> > >
>>> > > What do you think? SHould we request a new repository for the
>>> > > kustomize files? I propose hbase-kustomize.git.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Nick
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 4:33 PM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > I went ahead and rebuilt the Hadoop image module in the same
>>> style. I
>>> > > > rebased the zookeeper-single and hdfs kustimize implementations
>>> onto
>>> > the
>>> > > > same structure. So, PR’s #118, #119, #120, and #121 are all in this
>>> > > style.
>>> > > > I don’t have a place for running integration tests, but unit tests
>>> are
>>> > > now
>>> > > > running in Jenkins.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I appreciate any attention you can provide.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > Nick
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 16:02, TAK-LON WU <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> Sorry that I’m on vacation and will be back online after 06/06 ,
>>> but
>>> > > >> thanks
>>> > > >> for putting the PR out and I believe someone on our side will
>>> review
>>> > it
>>> > > .
>>> > > >> (
>>> > > >> or when I come back I will review them)
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Stephen
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 6:08 PM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > Heya team,
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I have rebuilt one of the early PRs so that the docker image
>>> build
>>> > > >> pieces
>>> > > >> > are integrated with the maven build. If this is acceptable to
>>> the
>>> > > >> > reviewers, I'll go forward with integrating the other images and
>>> > > >> > kustomize/kuttl tests in the same way.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Please take a look.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Thanks,
>>> > > >> > Nick
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/hbase-operator-tools/pull/118
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:19 PM Nick Dimiduk <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > > Heya team,
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > I have created individual pull-requests for each of the major
>>> > > >> functional
>>> > > >> > > pieces outlined in the initial branch. These await review.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > I've now started working integrating the test harness into the
>>> > maven
>>> > > >> > > build. After a brief detour for a Yetus plugin, I'm now
>>> looking
>>> > > >> instead
>>> > > >> > at
>>> > > >> > > maven integration via exec-maven-plugin. I'm also
>>> investigating
>>> > how
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> > pull
>>> > > >> > > the container image build up into maven as well.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Thanks,
>>> > > >> > > Nic,
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 2:42 PM Nick Dimiduk <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >> Heya team,
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I've created a feature ticket [0] from which this
>>> contribution
>>> > can
>>> > > >> hang.
>>> > > >> > >> I've created an associated release version [1] and feature
>>> branch
>>> > > [2]
>>> > > >> > >> against which we can target PRs while things take shape. I've
>>> > > >> published
>>> > > >> > my
>>> > > >> > >> initial extraction of this feature as a whole for your
>>> review [3]
>>> > > --
>>> > > >> > take a
>>> > > >> > >> look at the big picture there. For each commit on that
>>> branch,
>>> > I've
>>> > > >> > created
>>> > > >> > >> a sub-task on HBASE-27827. Probably reviewers will find other
>>> > items
>>> > > >> we
>>> > > >> > need
>>> > > >> > >> to peel off as sub-tasks. I'll start turning each of these
>>> > commits
>>> > > >> into
>>> > > >> > PRs
>>> > > >> > >> suitable for the Apache repo and your perusal.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I think we're getting due for the 1.3 release of Operator
>>> Tools,
>>> > > so I
>>> > > >> > >> expect this will land in 1.4.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Thanks,
>>> > > >> > >> Nick
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> [0]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-27827
>>> > > >> > >> [1]:
>>> > > >>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE/fixforversion/12353199
>>> > > >> > >> [2]:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/hbase-operator-tools/tree/HBASE-27827-kubernetes-deployment
>>> > > >> > >> [3]:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/hbase-operator-tools/compare/HBASE-27827-kubernetes-deployment...ndimiduk:hbase-operator-tools:HBASE-27827-kubernetes-deployment
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:28 AM Nick Dimiduk <
>>> > [email protected]
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>> Heya team,
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Over here at $dayjob, we have an increasing reliance on
>>> > Kubernetes
>>> > > >> for
>>> > > >> > >>> both development and production workloads. Our tools are
>>> > maturing
>>> > > >> and
>>> > > >> > >>> we're hoping that they might be of interest to the wider
>>> > > community.
>>> > > >> > >>> I'd like to see if there's community interest in receiving
>>> > > some/any
>>> > > >> of
>>> > > >> > >>> them as a contribution. I think we'll also need a plan from
>>> ASF
>>> > > >> Infra
>>> > > >> > >>> that makes kubernetes available to us as a project.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> We have implemented a basic stack of tools for
>>> orchestrating ZK
>>> > +
>>> > > >> HDFS
>>> > > >> > >>> + HBase on Kubernetes. We use this for running a small
>>> local dev
>>> > > >> > >>> cluster via MiniKube/KIND ; for ITBLL on smallish
>>> distributed
>>> > > >> clusters
>>> > > >> > >>> in a public cloud ; and in production for running clusters
>>> of
>>> > ~100
>>> > > >> > >>> Data Nodes/Region Servers in a public cloud. There was an
>>> > earlier
>>> > > >> > >>> discussion about using our donation of test hardware for
>>> running
>>> > > >> more
>>> > > >> > >>> thorough tests in our CI, but one of the limiting factors is
>>> > full
>>> > > >> > >>> cluster deployment. I hope that the community might be
>>> > interested
>>> > > in
>>> > > >> > >>> receiving this tooling as a foundation for more rigorous
>>> > > correctness
>>> > > >> > >>> and maybe even performance tests in the open. Furthermore,
>>> > perhaps
>>> > > >> the
>>> > > >> > >>> wider community has interest in an Apache licensed cluster
>>> > > >> > >>> orchestration tool for other uses.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Now for some details: The implementation is built on
>>> Kustomize,
>>> > so
>>> > > >> > >>> it's fundamentally transparent resource specification with
>>> yaml
>>> > > >> > >>> patches for composability; this is in contrast to a solution
>>> > using
>>> > > >> > >>> templates with defined capabilities and interfaces. There
>>> is no
>>> > > >> > >>> operator ; it's all coordinated via init/bootstrap
>>> containers,
>>> > > shell
>>> > > >> > >>> scripts, shared volumes for state, &c. For now.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Such a donation will amount to a code drop, which will have
>>> its
>>> > > >> > >>> challenges. I'm motivated via internal processes to carve it
>>> > into
>>> > > >> > >>> smaller pieces, and I think that will benefit community
>>> review
>>> > as
>>> > > >> > >>> well. Perhaps this approach could be used to make the
>>> > contribution
>>> > > >> via
>>> > > >> > >>> a feature branch.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Is there community interest in adding such a capability to
>>> our
>>> > > >> > >>> maintained responsibilities? I'd hope that we have several
>>> > > >> volunteers
>>> > > >> > >>> to work with me through the contribution process, and who
>>> are
>>> > > >> > >>> reasonably confident that they'll be able to help maintain
>>> such
>>> > a
>>> > > >> > >>> capability going forward. We'll also need someone who can
>>> work
>>> > > with
>>> > > >> > >>> Infra to get us access to Kubernetes cluster(s), via
>>> whatever
>>> > > means.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> What do you think?
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Thanks,
>>> > > >> > >>> Nick & the HBase team at Apple
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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