On 08.02.2008, at 19:49, Roland Weber wrote:

...
To sum up, we now have the following full and identical archives in
ezmlm, hc.apache.org/mail/ and mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/:

Not quite full :-) Both mod_mbox and /mail/ are missing about one
month worth of messages from the very beginning of the dev list.

Oh, ok.

I didn't check whether they are in ezmlm, where marc.info probably
got them from in the first place:
    http://marc.info/?l=httpclient-commons-dev&r=1&b=200210&w=2

Aye, so looks like we're missing the archives from 03 Oct 2002 to 28 Nov 2002 - they are neither in ezmlm nor in the raw archives at / mail/ :-(

I still have the archive with the missing messages I got from Hank,
but I'm not sure whether
a) Apache wants to merge external archives into our own
b) it is worth the effort

Hmm, I trust MARC so a) is probably not the issue... re b) I think we should at least put them into the raw archives (we could then also re- index mod_mbox to have them in there) but I've no clue on how to get them into ezmlm...

...
I don't think we should replicate the list info on all component pages -
should be enough to have them on the main hc site:

Correct from a web site perspective. But we ship a copy of the
website with HttpClient 3.x, and I believe that is still planned
for the core and client releases, too. I'm not sure whether it
is possible to remove the mailing lists if you let Maven generate
the "Project Information" section for a module, or whether that
is even desired if we ship the generate pages in releases.

Right, I knew I was missing something - don't worry then...

http://hc.apache.org/mail-lists.html (which btw should also be adjusted to get rid of the links to the old lists, will try to do that soon if no
one beats me to it).

I've updated the main site, but not the component sites.

Minor snafu: I got distracted when updating the site and a few
minutes passed before I changed downloads.cgi to executable again.
Do you want to guess when the production servers were synced?
The download page will start to work again in less than 4 hours...

Btw, we really need to change the deployment for the website from Maven scp to a SVN checkout - this is a) a infra requirement [1] and b) will make sure that those things don't happen. The only downside is that we need to keep a copy of the generated stuff in SVN but that was discussed to length already and we don't really need to re-hash that.

Cheers,
Erik

[1] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html


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