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Wulf Wechsung commented on HTTPCLIENT-1054:
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Hello Oleg,
thanks for your response. Yes, I'm using 3.1 which I just assumed to be the
latest.
Kind Regards,
Wulf
> HTTPClient per default relentlessly spams to stderr
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> Key: HTTPCLIENT-1054
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-1054
> Project: HttpComponents HttpClient
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: HttpClient
> Affects Versions: 3.1 Final
> Environment: all
> Reporter: Wulf Wechsung
> Priority: Minor
> Labels: default, logging, soc
> Original Estimate: 24h
> Remaining Estimate: 24h
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> HTTPClient relentlessly spams to stderr when including it into a project via
> maven. This is not a decent default behaviour for a libary. Libaries should,
> per default, communicate their internal state solely and adequatly via their
> API and let it be up to the application to react to that state (logging it is
> one such reaction). From some replies to tickets in the same vain I can see
> that this is perhaps a sensitive topic as some see logging to be a core
> concern of HTTPClient. I do agree it's helpful as a debugging tool but as
> such it needs to be opt-in. As a standard error output, the logging of
> HTTPClient is absolutely useless because it does not and can not describe
> what the application is trying to do.
> Why this improvement when there is a way to disable HTTClient logging (in
> fact, there seem to be many ways ... always a bad sign ..)?
> Do a google search for: httpclient "console spam"
> 204 hit for this harsh phrasing alone. Search this phrase for any other
> libary you like to use and compare the number of hits. Ask youself, how often
> have you seen the java standard libary write to stdout or stderr?
> Personally, I tried to disable it via JDK14
> getLogger("org.apache").setLevel(Level.OFF) which wouldn't work and now am
> using a solution I found on Stackoverflow which is:
> System.setProperty("org.apache.commons.logging.Log",
> "org.apache.commons.logging.impl.NoOpLog"); }
> The problem I have is that I include this lib and suddently my console is
> useless because httpclient is all over it (writing a system monitor ...). I
> have to search google to find a solution
> (http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-ga/logging.html does not tell you
> how to turn logging off ...) and the logical one "turn of the JDK logger"
> does not work right away.
> It's really a matter of following the principal of least suprise (a libary is
> not expected to write to the console which is the observable default
> behaviour of HTTPClient) and the principal of separation of concerns (logging
> is a concern for applications and not for libaries).
> Following at least one of these would substantially increase the joy of
> working with the HTTPClient libary.
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