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Sanghwa Min commented on HTTPCLIENT-2388:
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Hi [Oleg|https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=olegk],
 
Thanks for the clear feedback.

My suggestion was on the predictable race condition from a known server idle 
timeout.
 
I appreciate the clarification on `closeIdle`. My initial thought was to handle 
this avoidance automatically within the connection request flow itself, rather 
than requiring a manager thread or a manual call. I understand your concern 
about supporting two different mechanisms, especially since the end result is 
largely the same.

On the builder default, I'll open a pull request for builder defaults.
 
Thank you,

Sanghwa

> Idle connection management features
> -----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HTTPCLIENT-2388
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-2388
>             Project: HttpComponents HttpClient
>          Issue Type: Wish
>            Reporter: Sanghwa Min
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Hello,
>  
> I'm leaving some thoughts as I have a couple of ideas for improving Apache 
> HttpClient that came to mind while coordinating its settings with our 
> server's idle timeout.
> *1. Proactively Avoiding Stale Connections*
> The validateAfterInactivity setting is very useful for preventing stale 
> connections. However, it does not offer a complete guarantee of avoiding a 
> NoHttpResponseException due to a potential race condition.
> A connection can pass its validation check (which involves a brief socket 
> read) but be terminated by a server or a network appliance in the small 
> window of time before the actual HTTP request is sent. This issue can occur 
> even when a user is aware of the server's idle timeout and configures the 
> client settings accordingly, which makes it a fundamental challenge to solve 
> with validation alone.
> Considering the inherent challenges with validation discussed in 
> HTTPCLIENT-2142, perhaps a more direct approach could be offered for common 
> use cases. For instance, when a user knows the server's idle timeout, what if 
> we provided a setting like `discardAfterInactivity`? This would allow them to 
> simply discard connections that have been idle beyond a specified threshold 
> without attempting to validate them. Or maybe a Filter or Predicate before 
> suing the connection?
> *2. the Predictability of evictIdleConnections*
> The convenience method HttpClientBuilder.evictIdleConnections(maxIdleTime) 
> can produce a somewhat unexpected result regarding its eviction schedule.
> Internally, it instantiates an IdleConnectionEvictor by setting its sleepTime 
> (the check interval) to be the same value as maxIdleTime. This leads to a 
> situation where a connection can remain idle for nearly 2 * maxIdleTime 
> (sleepTime + maxIdleTime) before being closed. This behavior may not align 
> with what a user might expect from a parameter named maxIdleTime.
> I might be missing something, but to make this behavior more predictable and 
> align better with user expectations, would it be possible to use a shorter 
> check interval by default? For instance, setting the sleepTime, maxIdleTime 
> parameters to something like `maxIdleTime.divide(2)` could be considered.
> {code:java}
> // HttpClientBuilder.build()
> final IdleConnectionEvictor connectionEvictor = new 
> IdleConnectionEvictor((ConnPoolControl<?>) connManagerCopy,
> maxIdleTime.divide(2), maxIdleTime.divide(2)); {code}
> If a user set maxIdleTime to be 20s, some connections might get evicted after 
> 10s, but I expect using this default feature makes max idle time to be 20s.
> Thank you for considering,
> Sanghwa



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