The ASF as a whole is rather conservative in the sense of being slow to change.

Maven Central for JAR packaging has been around for over a decade AND is 
supported by Apache projects.

Docker is comparatively new and there is less policy around it. There is some, 
but perhaps not well documented.

I think we should evaluate the docker file and see what licensing/policy 
questions there are. We can then ask the VP, Legal Affairs on 
[email protected]

Regards,
Dave

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> On Jan 17, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Josh Fischer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Gotcha.  I understand the difference in the two now, but I'm not sure why
> one would be allowed over the other.  At the end of the day they are both
> compiled binaries released under the Apache foundation.  I'll take some
> time to read through apache docs to see if I can get a better understanding
> of the differences in the two.
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 4:28 PM Ning Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> That's true. Maven artifacts are binaries too. My bad.
>> 
>> The "binary" I was referring to are the executables, such as installer,
>> which contains quite some executables like CLI, exeample jobs, UI, tracker,
>> etc. The docker image is also part of my "binary".
>> 
>> Basically users can just install and run their jobs without compiling all
>> the tools from source code. Maven artifacts allow users to build their
>> jobs. They still need to compile all the other things in order to run the
>> jobs.
>> 
>> I hope it is more clear this time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:59 PM Josh Fischer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure I understand how you are defining the differences between
>> the
>>> terms "maven artifacts" and "binary releases".  Wouldn't a maven
>> artifact (
>>> java jar ) be considered a binary release as well?  Am I missing
>> something?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:02 AM Ning Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think we can not make an official binary release yet before clear all
>>>> license issues. Therefore, 0.20.0.2 can have maven artifacts but it
>> can't
>>>> have binary release. :(
>>>> 
>>>> That's just my understanding of Apache requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:24 PM Josh Fischer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to start the process to vote for the 0.20.2-incubating
>> binary
>>>>> release.  Before we start I remember there were concerns about the
>> size
>>>> of
>>>>> the Heron binary and where it would be hosted on Apache Infra.  Does
>>>> anyone
>>>>> have any knowledge on this potential issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Josh
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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