Hi,

Changing the name isn't really optional or "being google-able" [2].

The naming is a crucial part of trademark protection [1], which is the only 
protection ASF has against hostile Embrace & Extends.

Fragmented forks with the same name is particularly bad, especially if the 
feature in question can be only used by a proprietary tool (like Dain's 
suggestion about Presto view metadata, except it only works with a per-cpu 
license).

The safe path isn't pretty, it still ends up with IcedTea and IceWeasel … but 
at least, those are clearly weird.

Cheers,
Gopal

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_moron_in_a_hurry#United_States
[2] - https://packages.debian.org/jessie/misc/metastore

On 7/24/17, 3:04 PM, "Carl Steinbach" <cwsteinb...@gmail.com> wrote:

    +1 to Vihang's suggestion. Changing the name will only cause confusion.
    
    On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Johndee Cloudera <john...@cloudera.com>
    wrote:
    
    > +1 Vihang, I do not really like Catalog as it could create confusion with
    > the Catalog daemon from impala.
    >
    > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Vihang Karajgaonkar <vih...@cloudera.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Before we see a flood of name suggestions :) Why not just keep it
    > > Metastore? Its already well-known in the community and easy to relate 
to.
    > >
    > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Alan Gates <alanfga...@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > > In the same vein Carter and Gunther suggested Omegastore.  Pick your
    > > > alphabet and whether it’s a catalog or a store I guess.
    > > >
    > > > Alan.
    > > >
    > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Sergey Shelukhin <
    > > ser...@hortonworks.com>
    > > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > I’d like to suggest ZCatalog.
    > > > >
    > > > > On 17/7/11, 15:41, "Lefty Leverenz" <leftylever...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >>> I'd like to suggest Riven.  (Owen O'Malley)
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> How about "Flora"?  (Andrew Sherman)
    > > > > >
    > > > > >Nice idea and thanks for introducing me to that book, Andrew.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >Along the same lines, how about "Honeycomb"?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >But since the idea is to make the metastore useful for many
    > projects,
    > > a
    > > > > >generic name that starts with "Meta" would be less confusing ...
    > even
    > > > > >though it breaks the tradition of Apache projects having quirky
    > names.
    > > > > >Unfortunately "Metalog" is already in use.  "Metamorph" has other
    > > > > >connotations, but it's cool.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >Naming enthusiasm notwithstanding, I'm +/-0 on the idea of 
splitting
    > > off
    > > > > >the metastore into a new project:  -0.5 for the sake of Hive and
    > +0.5
    > > > for
    > > > > >the greater good.  Wishy-washy, that's me.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >-- Lefty
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Sherman <
    > > asher...@cloudera.com>
    > > > > >wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Owen O'Malley <
    > > > owen.omal...@gmail.com>
    > > > > >> wrote:
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Chao Sun <sunc...@apache.org>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > > >> >
    > > > > >> > > and maybe a different project name?
    > > > > >> > >
    > > > > >> >
    > > > > >> > Yes, it certainly needs a new name. I'd like to suggest Riven.
    > > > > >> >
    > > > > >> > .. Owen
    > > > > >> >
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> How about "Flora"?
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> (Flora is the protagonist of The Bees by Laline Paull)
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> -Andrew
    > > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > - JRB
    >
    


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