There are a couple Apache projects that use the "spotless" plugin to format
the code so that it all adheres to the same style.  I'd be in favor of
adding that to make that code automatically adhere to the check style
requirements.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 5:59 AM Peter Vary <pv...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:

> I personally checked the "soft" errors and fixed them if a second run was
> needed in my patches (which was the case most often than not ,because of
> the flaky tests anyway :()
> Also often checked the output before my reviews as well, and asked
> contributors to fix them. Running them manually for every patch would be an
> extra chore I would rather avoid.
>
> So I agree that we should start enforcing the rules, but if there is an
> easy way to run them, I would like to see yetus runs in the new system
> until we get to the "promised land" :) and have enforced rules in place.
>
> That said, even if we move forward only with the enforced rules we
> immediately can start with the following checks:
> - Rat check - Apache licence header
> - Whitespace check for all non-generated files
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> > On Jun 5, 2020, at 11:18, Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for failing fast starting with findbugs and eventually covering the
> > important points from checkstyle.
> >
> > Bes,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:35 AM Zoltan Haindrich <k...@rxd.hu> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hey Mustafa!
> >>
> >> Those checks are not executed anymore in the new system. I always feeled
> >> it a bit confusing to have a comment which reports about
> >> checkstyle/finbugs/etc issues; while
> >> getting a green test run was almost impossible due to the high number of
> >> randomly falling tests.
> >> So I don't think it's viable that someone will re-submit the patch with
> >> style changes.
> >>
> >> I think the old approach is a "soft" way of enforcing code quality - in
> >> which I personally don't believe: code quality should be enforced by
> >> rules/quality gates/etc.
> >>
> >> So I would like to take a different approach...I think we should
> definetly
> >> re-introduce these checks - however without "tolerance" being built-in.
> >> This will most likely
> >> mean that we will have to soften the ruleset first; but then we may
> >> gradually increase the bar to a higher level.
> >>
> >> The "without tolerance" will mean that this will be checked during (or
> >> right after) the build phase - so if you make quality mistakes you will
> >> just not get a test results
> >> (it will also save resources).
> >>
> >> Yesterday Laszlo have opened a ticket about fixing findbugs issues - if
> we
> >> do fix those issues; but we never enforce to fail the build - someone
> might
> >> just add a few more.
> >>
> >> To increase code quality through out the project I think we could take a
> >> bottom-up approach:
> >> * first patch:
> >>   * fix things in a low level module(like common or storage-api)
> >>   * it should also add the neccessary maven&job changes to enforce
> things
> >> during precommit (up-to that module)
> >> * followups:
> >>   * raise the bar to higher level modules
> >>
> >> Obviously we can't do this for something like checkstyle which detects a
> >> myriad of small issues:
> >> * the ruleset should be shrinked to something which needs reasonable
> >> amount of work to start enforcing
> >> * later we can enable further rules/fix all of them in the project
> >>
> >> What do you think about this?
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Zoltan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/5/20 2:47 AM, Mustafa IMAN wrote:
> >>> Thank you Zoltan for all this work.
> >>> I see many PRs are merged based on the new workflow already. The old
> >>> workflow generates many reports like ASF license/findbugs/checkstyle
> >> etc. I
> >>> don't see these in the new Github PR workflow. I am concerned the
> >> codebase
> >>> is going to suffer from lack of these reports very quickly. Do these
> >> checks
> >>> still happen but are not visible?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 4:41 AM Zoltan Haindrich <k...@rxd.hu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to note that you may login to the jenkins instance - to
> >>>> start/kill builds (or create new jobs).
> >>>> I've configured github oauth - but since team membership can't be
> >> queried
> >>>> from the "apache organization" - it's harder to configure all "hive
> >>>> committers".
> >>>> However...I think I've made it available for most of us - if you can't
> >>>> start builds/etc just let me know your github user and I'll add it.
> >>>>
> >>>> cheers,
> >>>> Zoltan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/29/20 2:32 PM, Zoltan Haindrich wrote:
> >>>>> Hey all!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch is now in master - so every new PR or a push on it will
> >>>> trigger a new run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please decide which one would you like to use - open a PR to see the
> >> new
> >>>> one work...or upload a patch file to the jira - but please don't do
> >> both;
> >>>> because in that case 2
> >>>>> execution will happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The job execution time(2-4 hours) of a single run is a bit higher
> than
> >>>> the usual on the ptest server - this is mostly to increase throughput.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch also disabled a set of tests; I will send the full list of
> >>>> skipped tests shortly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers,
> >>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/27/20 1:50 PM, Zoltan Haindrich wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello all!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The new stuff is ready to be switched on-to. It needs to be merged
> >> into
> >>>> master - and after that anyone who opens a PR will get a run by the
> new
> >>>> HiveQA infra.
> >>>>>> I propose to run the 2 systems side-by-side for some time - the
> >> regular
> >>>> master builds will start; and we will see how frequently that is
> >> polluted
> >>>> by flaky tests.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note that the current patch also disables around ~25 more tests to
> >>>> increase stability - to get a better overview about the disabled
> tests I
> >>>> think the "direction of the
> >>>>>> information flow" should be altered; what I mean by that is: instead
> >> of
> >>>> just throwing in a jira for "disable test x" and opening a new one
> like
> >>>> "fix test x"; only open
> >>>>>> the latter and place the jira reference into the ignore message;
> >>>> meanwhile also add a regular report about the actually disabled tests
> -
> >> so
> >>>> people who do know about the
> >>>>>> importance of a particular test can get involved.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note: the builds.apache.org instance will be shutdown somewhere in
> >> the
> >>>> future as well...but I think the new one is a good-enough alternative
> to
> >>>> not have to migrate the
> >>>>>> Hive-precommit job over to https://ci-hadoop.apache.org/.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://34.66.156.144:8080/job/hive-precommit/job/PR-948/5/
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-22942
> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/hive/pull/948/files
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/18/20 1:42 PM, Zoltan Haindrich wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hey!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/18/20 11:51 AM, Zoltan Chovan wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Thank you for all of your efforts, this looks really promising.
> With
> >>>> moving
> >>>>>>>> to github PRs, would that also mean that we move away from the
> >>>> reviewboard
> >>>>>>>> for code review?
> >>>>>>> I didn't thinked about that. I think using github's review
> interface
> >>>> will remain optional, because both review systems has there own strong
> >>>> points - I wouldn't force
> >>>>>>> anyone to use one over the other. (For some patches reviewboard is
> >>>> much better; because it's able to track content moves a bit better
> than
> >>>> github. - meanwhile github has
> >>>>>>> a small feature that enables to mark files as reviewed)
> >>>>>>> As a matter of fact we had sometimes patches on the jira's which
> >> never
> >>>> had neither an RB or a PR to review them - having a PR there at least
> >> will
> >>>> make it easier for
> >>>>>>> reviewers to comment.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, what happens if a PR is updated? Will the tests run for both
> >> or
> >>>> just
> >>>>>>>> for the latest version?
> >>>>>>> It will trigger a new build - if there is already a build in
> progress
> >>>> that will prevent a new build from starting until it finishes...and
> >> there
> >>>> is also a 5 builds/day
> >>>>>>> limit; which might induce some wait.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:51 PM Zoltan Haindrich <k...@rxd.hu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello all!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The proposed system have become more stable lately - and I think
> >> I've
> >>>>>>>>> solved a few sources of flakiness.
> >>>>>>>>> To be really usable I also wanted to add a way to dynamically
> >>>>>>>>> enable/disable a set of tests (for example the replication tests
> >>>> take ~7
> >>>>>>>>> hours to execute from the total of 24
> >>>>>>>>> hours - and they are also a bit unstable, so not running them
> when
> >>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> neccesary would be beneficial in multiple ways) - but to do this
> >> the
> >>>> best
> >>>>>>>>> would be to throw in
> >>>>>>>>> junit5; unfortunately the current ptest installation uses maven
> >> 3.0.5
> >>>>>>>>> which doesn't like these kind of things - so instead of hacking a
> >>>> fix for
> >>>>>>>>> that ....I've removed it
> >>>>>>>>> from the dev branch for now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to propose to start an evaluation phase of the new
> >> test
> >>>>>>>>> procedures(INFRA-20269)
> >>>>>>>>> The process would look something like this:
> >>>>>>>>> * someone opens a PR - the tests will be run on the changes
> >>>>>>>>> * on every active branches the tests will run from time to time
> >>>>>>>>>     * this will produce a bunch of test runs on the master branch
> >> as
> >>>> well ;
> >>>>>>>>> which will show how well the tests behave on the master branch
> >>>> without any
> >>>>>>>>> patches
> >>>>>>>>> * runs on branches (PRs or active development
> branches(eg:master))
> >>>> will be
> >>>>>>>>> rate limited to 5 builds/day
> >>>>>>>>> * at most ~4 builds at a time - to maximize resource usage
> >>>>>>>>> * turnaround time for a build is right now 2 hours - which I feel
> >>>> like a
> >>>>>>>>> balanced choice between speed/response time
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Possible future benefits:
> >>>>>>>>> * toggle features using github tags
> >>>>>>>>> * optional testgroups (metastore/replication) tests
> >>>>>>>>> * ability to run the metastore verification tests
> >>>>>>>>> * possibility to add smoke tests
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To enable this I will have to finish the HIVE-22942 ticket -
> beyond
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> new Jenkinsfile which defines the full logic;
> >>>>>>>>> although I've sinked a lot of time into fixing all kind of flaky
> >>>> tests I
> >>>>>>>>> would would like to disable around ~25 tests.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I also would like to propose a method to verify the stability of
> a
> >>>> single
> >>>>>>>>> test: run it a 100 times in series at the same place where the
> >>>> precommit
> >>>>>>>>> tests are running.
> >>>>>>>>> This will put the bar high enough that only totally stable tests
> >>>> could
> >>>>>>>>> satisfy it (a 99% stable test has 36% chance to pass this without
> >>>> being
> >>>>>>>>> caught :D)
> >>>>>>>>> After this will be in service it could be used to: validate that
> an
> >>>>>>>>> existing test is unstable (before disabling it) - and then used
> >>>> again to
> >>>>>>>>> prove that it got fixed during
> >>>>>>>>> re-enabling it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 4/29/20 4:28 PM, Zoltan Haindrich wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hey All!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I was planning to replace the ptest stuff with something less
> >>>> complex
> >>>>>>>>> for a while now - I see that we struggle a lot because of ptest
> is
> >>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> complicated than it should be...
> >>>>>>>>>> It would be much better if it would be constructed from well
> made
> >>>>>>>>> existing CI piece. - because of that I've started working on [1]
> a
> >>>> few
> >>>>>>>>> months ago.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It has it's pros and cons...but it's not the same as the
> existing
> >>>> ptest
> >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>>>>>> I've collected some infos about how it compares against the
> >>>> existing one
> >>>>>>>>> - but it became too long so I've moved it into a google docs
> >>>> document at
> >>>>>>>>> [3].
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's not yet ready... I still have some remaining
> >>>> problems/concerns/etc
> >>>>>>>>>> * what do you think about changing to a github PR based
> workflow?
> >>>>>>>>>> * it will not support at all things like "isolation" - so we
> will
> >>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> to make our tests work with eachother without bending the
> rules...
> >>>>>>>>>> * I've tried to overcommit the cpu resources which creates a
> more
> >>>> noisy
> >>>>>>>>> environment for the actual tests - this squeezes out some new
> >>>> problems
> >>>>>>>>> which should be fixed before
> >>>>>>>>>> this could be enabled.
> >>>>>>>>>> * for every PR the first run is somewhat sub-optimal...there are
> >>>> some
> >>>>>>>>> reasons for this - the actually used resources are the same; but
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> overall execution time is not
> >>>>>>>>>> optimal; I could accept this as a compromise because right now I
> >>>> wait
> >>>>>>>>>> 24 hours for a precommit run.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's deployed at [2] and anyone can start a testrun on it:
> >>>>>>>>>> * merge my HIVE-22942-ptest-alt branch from [4] into your branch
> >>>>>>>>>> * open a PR against my hive repo on github [5]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Zoltan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-22942
> >>>>>>>>>> [2] http://34.66.156.144:8080/job/hive-precommit
> >>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dhL5B-eBvYNKEsNV3kE6RrkV5w-LtDgw5CtHV5pdoX4/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>>>>>>> [4] https://github.com/kgyrtkirk/hive/tree/HIVE-22942-ptest-alt
> >>>>>>>>>> [5] https://github.com/kgyrtkirk/hive/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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