Master moves to 4.2.0-SNAPSHOT, no changes as such. If we decide to name
the next release 5.0.0, the Release Manager for that version can handle the
versioning changes accordingly.

-Ayush

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 at 13:36, Butao Zhang <butaozha...@163.com> wrote:

> I would like to reconfirm a question. If the 4.1.0 branch is released,
> should the version number of the master branch be changed to 5.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> or 4.2.0-SNAPSHOT?
> It seems that everyone believes that the name of the next major version
> should be 5.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
>
> Thanks,
> Butao Zhang
> ---- Replied Message ----
> From Attila Turoczy<aturo...@cloudera.com.INVALID>
> <aturo...@cloudera.com.INVALID>
> Date 6/23/2025 19:47
> To <dev@hive.apache.org> <dev@hive.apache.org>
> Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Hive 4.1.x release
> In my view, Hive 5 (high five! 🙂) should represent a major milestone.
> Ideally, it would include more impactful changes such as:
>
>    - Making Iceberg the default table format (pending community
>    consensus),
>    - Removing legacy configurations and integrations
>    - Integrating new compaction strategies, among other forward-looking
>    improvements.
>
> Given the current scope and feature set, the existing package feels more
> aligned with a 4.1 release rather than a true version 5.
>
> -Attila
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 1:36 PM lisoda <lis...@yeah.net> wrote:
>
>> What if we integrate JDK 21 and then release version 5.x?
>>
>>
>> ---- Replied Message ----
>> From Ayush Saxena<ayush...@gmail.com> <ayush...@gmail.com>
>> Date 06/23/2025 19:31
>> To dev@hive.apache.org
>> Cc
>> Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Hive 4.1.x release
>> I don’t have a strict preference around the version number — the
>> important thing is that we get the release out. That said, this feels
>> quite last-minute. Most of us have been planning with 4.1 in mind.
>>
>> While 5.x does open the door to removing deprecated methods/configs
>> and gives us more freedom to make breaking changes, I think we should
>> proceed with 4.1 as originally planned. Even if the work for 5.x seems
>> small now, properly thinking through what all we might want to include
>> in a major release could end up pushing timelines further.
>>
>> Unless we decide to do a last-minute major version bump without
>> looking out what more can be scoped — which I don’t think would be
>> very community-friendly — it's better to keep things simple and
>> focused. From what I can tell, most of the folks don't have a
>> particularly strong preference, so let’s not overcomplicate things 2
>> days before the code freeze.
>>
>> Let’s aim to release 4.1 next week as planned, and we can save the
>> more ambitious ideas for 5.x 🙂
>>
>> (Outside scope info): As far as I know, Hadoop is also planning to
>> drop JDK 8 only in the 3.4 release [1].
>>
>> -Ayush
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/5543x33nv6196bc5xyxdqjoh2dht0kbg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 at 16:48, Shohei Okumiya <oku...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you all!
>> >
>> > I also think Iceberg REST Catalog is not a blocker. It is nice to have,
>> and HIVE-29019 verified that no critical bugs, such as metadata
>> corruptions, exist in the current effective endpoint. Improving the release
>> cadence sounds more important.
>> >
>> > Regarding 4.1 vs 5.0, I also don't have a firm preference. If we go
>> with 5.0, isn't the extra work significant? We may have to change the fix
>> versions of all tickets, update some documents mentioning 4.1.0(such as the
>> following one), that's all? In that case, it sounds technically possible.
>> > - https://hive.apache.org/docs/latest/capture-lineage-info/
>> >
>> > I'm excited about the next release. Hopefully, everyone shares the
>> thought!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Okumin
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 7:13 PM Butao Zhang <butaozha...@163.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the advice!
>> >> I just sent out the notification email regarding the code freeze[1].
>> >>
>> >> Additionally, regarding Stamatis' suggestion: "I feel that the current
>> content deserves a major version bump (instead of 4.1.0 we should probably
>> consider 5.0.0)." I don't have strong feelings either for or against this.
>> Given the significant changes in this release, whether it would be more
>> meaningful to define it as version 5.0 may require further discussion.
>> Perhaps we should initiate a community email vote on whether to name it
>> 4.1.0 or 5.0.0?
>> >>
>> >> [1]https://lists.apache.org/thread/c166fz9hr3yft75qo3lcmhrbm1howpol
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Butao Zhang
>> >> ---- Replied Message ----
>> >> FromAyush Saxena<ayush...@gmail.com>
>> >> Date6/23/2025 17:23
>> >> To<dev@hive.apache.org>
>> >> SubjectRe: [DISCUSS] Hive 4.1.x release
>> >>
>> >> Could we consider sending out a notification email?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Let’s have Butao Zhang, with their Release Manager hat on, do the
>> >> honors here. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Butao Zhang, could you please send out a [NOTICE] email announcing
>> >> that the code freeze for 4.1.0 is set for the 25th?
>> >> Post that, only critical items will be considered for the release and
>> >> must be cherry-picked to the release branch (alongside master, where
>> >> applicable).
>> >> Feel free to phrase it accordingly.
>> >>
>> >> –Ayush
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 at 14:33, Denys Kuzmenko <dkuzme...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> HIVE-29038 is more like an open discussion.
>> >>
>> >> 25th sounds good! Could we consider sending out a notification email?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>>
>

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