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Edward Capriolo commented on HIVE-5317:
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"In theory the base can be in any format, but ORC will be required for v1"
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This is exactly what I talk about when I talk about fragmentation. Hive can not 
be a system where features only work when using a specific input format. The 
feature must be applicable to more then just the single file format. Taging 
"other file formats" in the "LATER" bothers me. Wouldn't the community have 
more utility of something that worked against a TextFormat was written first, 
then later against other formats. I know about the "stinger initiative", 
developing features that only work with specific input formats does not seem 
like the correct course of action. It goes against our core design principals:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Home

"Hive does not mandate read or written data be in the "Hive format"---there is 
no such thing. Hive works equally well on Thrift, control delimited, or your 
specialized data formats. Please see File Format and SerDe in the Developer 
Guide for details."


> Implement insert, update, and delete in Hive with full ACID support
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HIVE-5317
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-5317
>             Project: Hive
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Owen O'Malley
>            Assignee: Owen O'Malley
>         Attachments: InsertUpdatesinHive.pdf
>
>
> Many customers want to be able to insert, update and delete rows from Hive 
> tables with full ACID support. The use cases are varied, but the form of the 
> queries that should be supported are:
> * INSERT INTO tbl SELECT …
> * INSERT INTO tbl VALUES ...
> * UPDATE tbl SET … WHERE …
> * DELETE FROM tbl WHERE …
> * MERGE INTO tbl USING src ON … WHEN MATCHED THEN ... WHEN NOT MATCHED THEN 
> ...
> * SET TRANSACTION LEVEL …
> * BEGIN/END TRANSACTION
> Use Cases
> * Once an hour, a set of inserts and updates (up to 500k rows) for various 
> dimension tables (eg. customer, inventory, stores) needs to be processed. The 
> dimension tables have primary keys and are typically bucketed and sorted on 
> those keys.
> * Once a day a small set (up to 100k rows) of records need to be deleted for 
> regulatory compliance.
> * Once an hour a log of transactions is exported from a RDBS and the fact 
> tables need to be updated (up to 1m rows)  to reflect the new data. The 
> transactions are a combination of inserts, updates, and deletes. The table is 
> partitioned and bucketed.



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