On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 02:41:43PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Marc Slemko wrote:
> > 
> > It is the start of a very ugly trend.

I fear I have to agree with Marc here.

> Okey, I'm convinced.  It would be better to have this
> done by httpd itself in some way in which apachectl
> can detect the failure -- like doing the setuid() and
> setgid() before detach().  (Having apachectl check the
> log for the start message is just as ugly as my original
> idea because of the locating and parsing the logfile
> issue.)

IMHO this is an issue for "make install" and neither for
apachectl nor for httpd's startup phase.

"Make install" inserts "Group #-1" into the config, and could
just as well do a quick check over "#-1", "nobody" and "nogroup".

Anything the admin will configure after that is up to her, and she
better know where the error_log file is.

With that in mind, I agree on the source of checkgid being in the
source tree, but I disagree a little (-0.5)  with it being installed
as a support tool proper. On a different target machine (in the case
of binbuild.sh), groups may be configured differently, but that
should IMO be handled by the administrator there.

Just my $.02

   Martin
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