On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for > ages?
Yes. I've seen many confused people posting to comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix who where caught by exactly this issue. It usually starts with a basic query like "I installed apache and it says that it started successfully, but I can't access it." This is VERY difficult to debug, because it could be caused by any number of things. On the other hand, the problem report "I tried to start apache, but the error log says permission denied binding to port 80" is trivial to debug. > A 'make install; <foo>/bin/apachectl start' no matter who does > the building has "always" resulted in at least a somewhat functional > server. I don't see how the server can be considered functional when there is no way to know how to access it. How do you figure out the correct URL? The only way to do that is to look in the config file for the Port, and if you know enough to do that, you surely know enough to change that port yourself. As I've said, this "cute" feature is confusing for newbies and irritating for some legitimate users. The only people it helps are people who install apache often for testing, and these people should know to use --port on the configure command line. Joshua.
