"Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:trawick@rdu88-250-
> > >                                           Nor do I want spurious
> -std
> > > files copying in there to confuse matters.
> > 
> > Some of us want the -std files though.  From time to time I (and
> 
> That is the difference between developers and users.  I want the -std
> files on my DEVELOPER machines, and I have tricks to get them.  I don't
> want them anywhere near my PRODUCTION machines, because they get in the
> way.

not a valid description of how I use -std files...

> > I don't think anybody would be in favor of not providing
> > httpd-std.conf; perhaps the issue is just where to put it when the
> > user does an install (from binbuild or from make install it should
> > work the same).
> 
> I would be in favor of never installing them on an upgrade.  They are
> useless on a production machine that already has a configuration.  They
> are meant as DEFAULT values to help people get up and running.

I'm curious about how other people feel about this, so I started a
vote in STATUS.  

IMHO they *are* useful on a production machine.  The vast majority of
the Apache conf files I see, mine or from other users, started with
the default configuration file and could benefit by occasional
comparison with the current default.

> Is there ANY other software package anywhere that actually re-installs
> the default configuration files on an upgrade?????

I'm not too worried about what the other software packages do, though
I have no problem thinking of other examples (RedHat, which likes to
clobber what you already have with their idea of what the file should
be; some of the OS/390 products, which have libraries of samples which
are updated to reflect current-best-practices when the product is
updated).

-- 
Jeff Trawick | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Born in Roswell... married an alien...

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