>> then *what* is the driver for 1.4 over 2.x?? Right now I think it's unknown - but with some reasoned debate I think a path will emerge.
One other thought - Apache needs an enemy - and I mean this in the nicest possible terms. Having been on the receiving end of the forums venom before I know how everybody responds to a threat. With 66% market share and IIS the only real threat, why does everyone come to work in the morning. Larry Ellison said it best in "Softwars" - "we pick our enemies very carefully." I think this is an important point because it gives you focus and reason for being. 2.x is adrift because there is no threat to it apart from apathy - so what do you do to get the focus back on Apache? Personally I think the driver for 1.4 over 2.x is 64-bit because that's what people are going to be buying next. 64-bit offers you three things: 1. Performance 1-4 IPC (instructions per cycle 2. Memory >4GB RAM 3. Security Sun, AMD, PowerPC all offer 1 & 2, Itanium offers you 6-8 IPC and some very sophisticated security capabilities not found in any other chip architecture. The downside of Itanium is it's perception in the market place. Intel has done a terrible job of marketing it - however they do have to protect the Pentium cash cow. This will all change sometime next year with the btrans software which will give you Xeon performance for x86 programs running under the EPIC architecture. Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3 Glenn wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:31:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit > > support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source > > compatability (to the extent possible) with Apache 1.3 modules would > > probably see rapid uptake. I can't say that thrills me but it's probably > > true... > > +1 > Again, unless there is 100% binary compatibility, which I do NOT see with 1.4, then *what* is the driver for 1.4 over 2.x?? -- =========================================================================== Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither" - T.Jefferson