[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am not affiliated with any company that directly manufactures or
ships Itanium products... but I happen to have 2 or 3 of the beasties
here and Peter is right... the answers to most people's well-worn
arguments about how you can't secure an OS are now laying right
on the coffee table ( once the solve the over-heating problems, LOL ).

There are parts of every server ( httpd included ) that should ONLY
run in the (new) protected IA64 'container' spaces. It's a given
and it's inevitable.

Fine... then the obvious questions arise;

 1. does this require OS support?  E.g. is the discussion premature?
    Or is there an OS you were already thinking about?

 2. is this a platform issue?  E.g. should this discussion really be
    occuring over in apr-land, or over here?

If IA64 containers are entirely an application-specific detail, and
are useful today w-w/o OS support, then we have something on topic
to discuss in detail.  If I misinterpreted this as a future/OS rings
kernel design discussion, then I appologize.

It's interesting to discover the real success of APR when you
remove the operating system altogether and discover that Apache
is now so good at not caring what the OS really is that it doesn't
care much, either, when there is no OS at all.

LOL - Yup :)  If you ever want to add another use-case to the apr.apache.org
page, feel free to post your blurb on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Always fun to add
more real-world examples.

Bill

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