His further dismissal of beginning at APR leads me to suspect that he's
never actually built httpd, or in the process, never noted that APR is
the first, most fundemental dependency.  If APR is not built using ant,
all further discussion on this list is rather pointless, no?


Thanks Bill... but I have noticed this first dependency since APR IS NOT delivered with httpd (at least with CVS). One have to
checkout ap, apr-util and apr-iconv in the httpd/srclib directory...

Anyway, I give up with ant as a building tool since no one understand that autoconf/configure is only Linux,BSD or whatever Unix dependent...

How are you dealing with system/compiler dependencies on WXP, OS/400, VMS, 0S/390, Bull GCOS and any non Unix OS??? If you want a building process based on platform/compiler/OS dependencies without Java/Ant and without autoconf, look also at www.boost.org, they are doing quite well!!

None are using autoconf which needs m4 which needs .....

Francis



----- Original Message ----- From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <dev@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: Directions for Win32 binary httpd


Nick Kew wrote:

I really don't like the idea of having to install ant just to build apache.
It's a major new dependency, yet adds nothing to the server.

We have too many dependencies, at least this -one- would be ASF software.
I wholeheartedly support the concept, but don't believe this is actually
a viable option at this point.

Moreover, Francis' comments reflect a lack of comprehension with respect
to the chore of determining platform specific details that (at the moment)
require us to use autoconf, or some similar detection/test compilation
feature.  Ant is not prepared to handle these issues, and autoconf's
results aren't well integrated to serve ant.

His further dismissal of beginning at APR leads me to suspect that he's
never actually built httpd, or in the process, never noted that APR is
the first, most fundemental dependency.  If APR is not built using ant,
all further discussion on this list is rather pointless, no?

Bill




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