Gregg L. Smith wrote:
> Original Message -----------------------
>> Finally, I have yet to see any feedback on the pcre mandatory 
>> dependency issue.  Comments?
> 
> Personally, I thought your Monopoly metaphor was quite on target.
> 
> libz, openssl, lua = batteries not included
> apr, apu, pcre = drive train not included.
> 
>> And what is passing for an excuse for a local PCRE install 
>> these days probably doesn't look like 7.8 or later, with 
>> various fixes we are vulnerable to.
> 
> This does not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. As a user, is the pcre 
> 8.0 I've built going to expose me to risks that your maintained 7.8 does not? 
> If yes, then I'd prefer your maintained one. After all, who knows better than 
> you what will interact with your code to produce problems. Regardless of 
> merit, who will ultimately get blamed in the end? Could your reputation be 
> tarnished? Can you completely divorce yourself from something your software 
> requires to run?

I'm referring to pre v7 chaos.  And mostly not referring to modern
linux distros.

> The 'Jump Ship' factor;
> 
> To me, and I'm probably wrong, it sounds like Mr. Felt's comment was an 
> ultimatum of sorts as 'indefinitely' is a pretty strong word. With this issue 
> you have created a deal with it or jump ship ultimatum which could very well 
> leave some people scrambling to get off. Each person is going to inevitably 
> weigh the pain factor, the pain of dealing with it over the pain of jumping 
> ship. I consider myself lucky that my second attempt to deal with it was 
> successful, or so it seems so far anyway, but I never know from day to day.

Agreed that ease-of-adoption is going to be the usual, first barrier to
anyone jumping aboard 2.4 from 2.2, 2.0, or even still from 1.3.

> I may be wrong but as an outsider looking in, I see you wanting to stop 
> maintaining/including the gear box and are instead spending the time on 
> adding more optional gadgets to choose from (some of the third party modules 
> you've taken over). In the end, I'd prefer having a reverse gear over the 
> rear window defogger. You are also loosing all control of a required piece of 
> equipment, this has got to make some of you at least cringe a little.

I'm not 100% sure I understand what you are saying here.  Drop the
gearbox and let them assemble their own transmission?  Or distribute
a most modern transmission that the user can ignore or swap out if they
want to install their own?

> Sorry for the outburst, but you opened the door for, and I've said what I've 
> wanted to for some time now, thanks for listening. Corrections and daggers 
> welcomed.

No problems, thanks for chiming in.

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