Ahh. I think I see the problem! For some reason Bill sees this as somehow
Jim's (my) fork. It's not. It's a  svn branch from HEAD of trunk, which contains
all the changes. That branch is the projects's branch not some personal
fork, whatever that means.

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 6:49 AM, William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 04:16 Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org 
> <mailto:humbed...@apache.org>> wrote:
> On 09/12/2018 10:58 AM, Graham Leggett wrote:
> > On 12 Sep 2018, at 03:15, William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net 
> > <mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net> 
> > <mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net <mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net>>> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 17:42 Graham Leggett <minf...@sharp.fm 
> >> <mailto:minf...@sharp.fm> 
> >> <mailto:minf...@sharp.fm <mailto:minf...@sharp.fm>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 11 Sep 2018, at 20:35, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com
> >>     <mailto:j...@jagunet.com <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     > This is what I propose:
> >>     >
> >>     >  o Later on this week I svn cp trunk over to branches/2.5.x
> >>
> >>
> >> -1 ... Veto on the basis of project bylaws. Propose a revision for voting.
> > 
> > I've totally lost you. Jim describes creating a branch, how is this 
> > related to voting?
> 
> I am not Bill, but it is likely a reference to the fact that you can 
> veto code changes, not community/workflow changes. I see Jim's proposal 
> as the latter, so I'm not sure why the attempted veto. The codebase 
> itself isn't being changed from what I can gather, only the workflow is.
> 
> Yes. To be clear, the proposal to make 2.5 Jim's fork, discarding all 
> previously committed changes to 2.5 (and I suppose, renumbering trunk as 2.7) 
> is a change to the project development process at httpd.
> 
> As-it-stands, such a personal fork is vetoable. And flies in sharp contrast 
> to community over code, discarding the existing collaboration of 2.5.1-dev 
> trunk in favor of one participants agenda.
> 
> Note, sandboxes are encouraged, don't require any vote to start one, and 
> might lead to some compromise between points a and b.
> 
> I suggest above, propose a *process* revision to our /dev/ docs for a vote, 
> before proceeding to violate community norms on versioning. Sorry for the 
> confusion about what I was proposing to 'revise'.
> 
> As a project committee vote to change our operational process, that is a 
> simple majority vote, as Daniel observes, which would carve out space for a 
> zombie (never to be released) trunk,

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