Back in the day, httpd was a celebrated integration point for dozens of
apache projects. Literally the flagship of the organization.

It's also why people were judicious about what to include in core, versus
codebases remaining elsewhere in the org as third party modules.

Of course at this point, there's no good reason to hook a dynamic language
into core in a non-thread-safe way.  Yet mod_lua exists.
If there's no good reason to hook a thread-safe httpd-specific HTML form
parser technology into the mix, what is mod_dav doing in here?

The obvious answer is because peevishness rules the day at Apache.  Very
Important People's pet projects have staying power, not because users
demand it, but because the personalities behind them would give you serious
shit for discarding the module on a whim.

All I ask for is to be able to bow out and never return to this group again.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 8:20 PM Joe Schaefer <> wrote:

> The proof is in the pudding, as it were.
> There's prima facia evidence in this very thread that he lied about ever
> running the test suite for apreq, because Joe wouldn't have had to patch it
> for him 8 months later had he ever bothered in the first place.
> But when everyone around you is no better than that, there's participation
> trophies for all of you!
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 8:17 PM Eric Covener <> wrote:
>> > And because you are such a prima donna Yann
>> Yann is an amazing programmer and super easy to work with. Maybe it's
>> hard to tell from the backseat.

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