@lamber-ken Got it. It would be great if the ApacheCN organization can also help translation and promotion.
The reason I'm asking about the Chinese docs is that the pages under "Documentation" (e.g., http://hudi.apache.org/newsite-content/docs/writing_data.html) already have the companion Chinese version on the old website (e.g., http://hudi.apache.org/cn/writing_data.html). So if it's not hard to port them to the new website, they are still useful for the users. Best, - Ethan On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:05 PM lamberken <lamber...@163.com> wrote: > > > Hi @Y Ethan Guo, > > > Thank you very much for your advice, I'll consider adjusting the font > size. > > > For Chinese docs, I talked with @leesf about the chinese docs before, our > initial aim is to help user to learn hudi quickly, we should not translate > the whole site, it doesn't work very well. > > > We can discuss about chinese docs in a new thread, btw we can work with > ApacheCN organization to translate and promote the hudi project. Apachecn > organization has already translate manay popular projects, like kafka, > flink, spark and etc. > > > ApacheCN & Projects > https://github.com/apachecn > https://docs.apachecn.org > http://kafka.apachecn.org > http://flink.apachecn.org > http://storm.apachecn.org > http://spark.apachecn.org > > > Best, > Lamber-Ken > > > > At 2020-01-08 14:05:41, "Y Ethan Guo" <ethan.guoyi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >@lamber-ken, Thanks for the great effort! The new website looks slick, > >with a much better browsing experience. > > > >One thing I noticed is that there seems to be no link to the Chinese > >version of the docs on the new website. Wondering where I can find them. > > > >Another minor thing is that the font size of the docs is bigger than the > >old one, so it takes more scrolls to the end of the page. IMHO, one point > >smaller might be better. > > > >- Ethan > > > >On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:11 PM lamberken <lamber...@163.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Hi Pratyaksh Sharma, > >> > >> > >> Good catch! > >> > >> Best, > >> Lamber-ken > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> At 2020-01-07 21:50:54, "Pratyaksh Sharma" <pratyaks...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi lamberken, > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your efforts. The new website definitely looks a lot > better. > >> > >> > >> I found a minor issue. At the top where we are giving link to go back to > >> old site, the language seems incorrect. It says "Click here back to old > >> site". Rather it should be "Click here to go back to old site". > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:22 PM Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> > >> The new site is here http://hudi.apache.org/newsite-content/ if you are > >> wondering.. Based on the feedback, we plan to deprecate the old in the > next > >> week or so. So please chime in. > >> > >> Thanks Lamber-ken for the champion effort! As someone who shouldered the > >> site design since the beginning of the project, I am very happy to see > >> something better finally replace it :D > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:38 PM lamberken <lamber...@163.com> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > hello everyone, > >> > > >> > > >> > The new site has been merged into asf-site branch, the official > website > >> > has been updated, hope you all enjoy the new site style. > >> > Please visit the new web site, if you notice any issues, feel free > >> provide > >> > feedback. > >> > > >> > > >> > btw, thanks @Vinoth for reviewing carefully. > >> > > >> > > >> > best, > >> > lamber-ken > >> > > >> > At 2019-12-21 07:59:25, "Vinoth Chandar" <vin...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >Hi lamber, > >> > > > >> > >Given we have enough +1s on the look and feel aspects, I propose we > >> open a > >> > >PR and iron out the content/remaining issues there one by one. > >> > > > >> > >I think a full line by line review is the best way to go, as with any > >> code > >> > >change > >> > > > >> > >Please share the PR here once you have it > >> > > > >> > >Thanks > >> > >Vinoth > >> > > > >> > >On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:55 PM lamberken <lamber...@163.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi leesf, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your affirmation. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> best, > >> > >> lamber-ken > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> At 2019-12-21 07:28:50, "leesf" <leesf0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi lamber, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for your great work, the new website looks much better. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Also if you guys have other companies(logos) needed to add to > powered > >> > >> by(Hudi Users)[1], please let lamberken/me know before using new > >> > website. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Leesf > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [1] https://lamber-ken.github.io/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> lamberken <lamber...@163.com> 于2019年12月20日周五 上午9:29写道： > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi nishith, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your affirmation. The content in the blue box is to > help > >> > us > >> > >> understand the highlighted content. > >> > >> It is different from the body content, so we need it. There are > >> several > >> > >> ways to present it, for examples. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> best, > >> > >> lamber-ken > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> At 2019-12-20 05:57:16, "nishith agarwal" <n3.nas...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Great job Lamber! > >> > >> > > >> > >> >The website looks really slick and has a much better experience of > >> > moving > >> > >> >from one page to another (mostly I think because it's faster), > also > >> > find > >> > >> it > >> > >> >the text much more conducive to absorb. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >While going through the quick start, I noticed that under the > >> > highlighted > >> > >> >box in dark (showing the code pieces), there's another highlighted > >> box > >> > (in > >> > >> >light blue) which talks about more details. Do we need that ? May > be > >> > the > >> > >> >details in that box can just follow the plain text style of other > >> > parts on > >> > >> >that page. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >-Nishith > >> > >> > > >> > >> >On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:59 PM vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> Hi Lamber, > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Awesome! Thanks for your hard work. > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Best, > >> > >> >> Vino > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> lamberken <lamber...@163.com> 于2019年12月19日周四 下午2:11写道： > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > Hi everyone, > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > I finished the rework of the new UI, if you have time, please > >> visit > >> > >> the > >> > >> >> > website[1]. > >> > >> >> > Any questions are welcome. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > [1]https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/quick-start-guide/ > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > best, > >> > >> >> > lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > At 2019-12-19 07:38:47, "lamberken" <lamber...@163.com> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >Hi @Shiyan Xu > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >Thanks. :) > >> > >> >> > >best, > >> > >> >> > >lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >At 2019-12-19 00:53:51, "Shiyan Xu" < > >> xu.shiyan.raym...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>Thank you @lamber-ken for the work! It is definitely a > greater > >> > >> browsing > >> > >> >> > >>experience. > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >>On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:28 PM lamberken < > lamber...@163.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> Hi, @Vinoth > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> I'm glad to hear your thoughts on the new UI, thanks. So > we > >> > keep > >> > >> its > >> > >> >> > style > >> > >> >> > >>> as it is now. > >> > >> >> > >>> The development of new UI can be completed these days, any > >> > >> questions > >> > >> >> > are > >> > >> >> > >>> welcome. > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> best, > >> > >> >> > >>> lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> At 2019-12-18 11:44:27, "Vinoth Chandar" < > >> > >> >> > mail.vinoth.chan...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >The case for right navigation for me, is mainly from > pages > >> > like > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/docker_demo > >> > >> >> > >>> >https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/querying_data > >> > >> >> > >>> >https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/writing_data > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >which often have commands/text you want to selectively > copy > >> > paste > >> > >> >> > from a > >> > >> >> > >>> >section. > >> > >> >> > >>> >For content you read sequentially, it matters less. I > >> agree.. > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >BTW the new site looks very sleek.. :) > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:50 PM lamberken < > >> lamber...@163.com> > >> > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> hi, allOne more thing that is missing.In the new UI, I > >> put a > >> > >> "BACK > >> > >> >> > TO > >> > >> >> > >>> TOP" > >> > >> >> > >>> >> button at the bottom of all pages to help us back to > top. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> We can also discuss whether we need the right > navigation > >> at > >> > the > >> > >> >> > >>> community > >> > >> >> > >>> >> meeting today.best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> At 2019-12-18 08:41:49, "lamberken" <lamber...@163.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >Hi @Vinoth, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >Thanks for raising this point, but I have some > different > >> > >> views. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >I've thought about it very seriously before, and I > remove > >> > the > >> > >> >> right > >> > >> >> > >>> >> navigation finally. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >1, I have a deep analysis of the characteristics of > our > >> > >> >> documents, > >> > >> >> > most > >> > >> >> > >>> >> of them have many > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > commands, if the right navigation exists, it will > >> > affect > >> > >> us > >> > >> >> to > >> > >> >> > >>> read. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >2, Most documents are short, we can visit them all > just > >> at > >> > one > >> > >> >> > page. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >3, The max width of web page is 1280px, left > navigation > >> is > >> > >> >> 250px(at > >> > >> >> > >>> >> least), right navigation is 250px(at least), > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > if so, the width of the main content is only left > >> > 800px, > >> > >> may > >> > >> >> > it's > >> > >> >> > >>> not > >> > >> >> > >>> >> suitable for readers. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >4, I also analysised other projects, like > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > 1) flink, spark, zeppelin, kafka, superset, > >> > elasticsearch, > >> > >> >> > arrow, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> kudu, hadoop don't have right navigation > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > 2) druid, kylin, beam have right navigation. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >These are my personal views. Welcome all community > >> members > >> > to > >> > >> >> join > >> > >> >> > in > >> > >> >> > >>> the > >> > >> >> > >>> >> discussion. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >In the end, I will follow our community, thanks. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >BTW, I have synced most of the documents[1], we can > use > >> > these > >> > >> >> > documents > >> > >> >> > >>> >> as a reference to see > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >if we need the navigation bar on the right in the new > UI. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >[1] https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/admin_guide > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >[2] https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/writing_data > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >[3] > https://lamber-ken.github.io/docs/quick-start-guide/ > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >At 2019-12-18 04:44:04, "Vinoth Chandar" < > >> > vin...@apache.org> > >> > >> >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>One more thing that is missing. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>Current site has a navigation links on the right, > which > >> > lets > >> > >> you > >> > >> >> > jump > >> > >> >> > >>> to > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>the right section directly. This is also a must-have > >> IMHO. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>I would suggest wait for more folks to come back from > >> > >> vacation, > >> > >> >> > >>> before we > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>finalize anything on this, as there could be more > >> feedback > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:15 PM lamberken < > >> > lamber...@163.com > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> Hi Vinoth, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> 1, I'll update the site content this week, clean > some > >> > >> useless > >> > >> >> > >>> templete > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> codes, adjust the content etc... > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> It will take a little long time for syncing the > >> > >> content. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> 2, I will adjust the style as much as I can to keep > >> the > >> > >> >> theming > >> > >> >> > blue > >> > >> >> > >>> >> and > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> white. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> When the above work is completed, I will notify you > >> all > >> > >> again. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> At 2019-12-17 12:49:23, "Vinoth Chandar" < > >> > >> vin...@apache.org> > >> > >> >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >Hi Lamber, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >+1 on the look and feel. Definitely feels slick > and > >> > fast. > >> > >> >> Love > >> > >> >> > the > >> > >> >> > >>> >> syntax > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >highlighting. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >Few things : > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >- Can we just update the site content as-is? ( I'd > >> > rather > >> > >> >> > change > >> > >> >> > >>> just > >> > >> >> > >>> >> the > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >look-and-feel and evolve the content from there, > per > >> > usual > >> > >> >> > means) > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >- Can we keep the theming blue and white, like > now, > >> > since > >> > >> it > >> > >> >> > gels > >> > >> >> > >>> well > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> with > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >the logo and images. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:02 AM lamberken < > >> > >> lamber...@163.com > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for your reply @lees @vino @vinoth :) > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> 在 2019-12-16 12:24:26，"leesf" < > leesf0...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > 写道： > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >Hi Lamber, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >Thanks for your work, have gone through the new > >> web > >> > ui, > >> > >> >> > looks > >> > >> >> > >>> good. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >Hence +1 from my side. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >Best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >Leesf > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com> > 于2019年12月16日周一 > >> > >> >> 上午10:17写道： > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> Hi Lamber, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> I am not an expert on Jekyll. But big +1 for > >> your > >> > >> >> > proposal to > >> > >> >> > >>> >> improve > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> the > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> site. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> Best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> Vino > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org> > >> 于2019年12月16日周一 > >> > >> >> > 上午3:15写道： > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > Thanks for taking the time to improve the > >> site. > >> > >> Will > >> > >> >> > review > >> > >> >> > >>> >> closely > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> and > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> get > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > back to you. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:02 AM lamberken > < > >> > >> >> > >>> lamber...@163.com> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > Hello, everyone. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > Compare to the web site of Delta Lake[1] > and > >> > >> Apache > >> > >> >> > >>> >> Iceberg[2], > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> they > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> may > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > looks better than hudi project[3]. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > I delved into our web ui and try to > improve > >> > it, I > >> > >> >> > learned > >> > >> >> > >>> >> that > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> hudi > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> web > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > ui > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > is based on jekyll-doc[4] theme > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > which is not active. So it needs us to > find > >> a > >> > new > >> > >> >> > active > >> > >> >> > >>> >> theme. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > So I try my best to find a free and > beatiful > >> > >> theme > >> > >> >> in > >> > >> >> > the > >> > >> >> > >>> >> past. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > Fortunately, I found a suitable theme > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > in the huge amount of themes(check them > one > >> by > >> > >> one). > >> > >> >> > It is > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > minimal-mistakes[5], it's very popular > and > >> > 100% > >> > >> >> free. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > Based on minimal theme, I rework a basic > new > >> > web > >> > >> ui > >> > >> >> > >>> >> framework. I > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> adjust > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > some css styles, nav bars and etc.. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > If you are interested in this, please > visit > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> https://lamber-ken.github.io > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > for a quick overview. > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > I’m looking forward to your reply, > thanks! > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > [1] https://delta.io > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > [2] https://iceberg.apache.org > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > [3] http://hudi.apache.org > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > [4] > >> > >> >> > https://github.com/tomjoht/documentation-theme-jekyll > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > [5] > >> > >> https://github.com/mmistakes/minimal-mistakes > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > best, > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > lamber-ken > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >
