Hi Shiyan,

Thanks for rasing this thread up again and sharing your thoughts. They are
valuable.

Regarding the date-time specific transform, there is an issue[1] that
describes this business requirement.

Best,
Vino

Shiyan Xu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月24日周一 上午7:22写道:

> Late to the party. :P
>
> I really favor the idea of built-in support enrichment. It is a very common
> case where we want to set datetime fields for partition path. We could have
> a built-in support to normalize ISO format / unix timestamp. For example
> `HourlyPartitionTransformer` will normalize whatever field user specified
> as partition path. Let's say user set `create_ts` as partition path field,
> the transfromer will apply change create_ts => _hoodie_partition_path
>
>
>    - 2020-02-23T22:41:42.123456789Z => 2020/02/23/22
>    - 1582497702.123456789 => 2020/02/23/22
>
> Does that make sense? If so, I may file a jira for this.
>
> As for FilterTransformer or FlatMapTransformer which is designed for
> generic purpose, they seem to belong to Spark or Flink's realm.
> You can do these 2 transformation with Spark Dataset now. Or once
> decoupled from Spark, you'll probably have an abstract Dataset class
> to perform engine-agnostic transformation
>
> My understanding of transformer in HUDI is more specifically purposed,
> where the underlying transformation is handled by the actual
> processing engine (Spark or Flink)
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM Vinoth Chandar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Hamid and Vinoyang for the great discussion
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:18 AM vino yang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have filed a Jira issue[1] to track this work.
> > >
> > > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HUDI-613
> > >
> > > vino yang <[email protected]> 于2020年2月13日周四 下午9:51写道:
> > >
> > > > Hi hamid,
> > > >
> > > > Agree with your opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Let's move forward step by step.
> > > >
> > > > Will file an issue to track refactor about Transformer.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Vino
> > > >
> > > > hamid pirahesh <[email protected]> 于2020年2月13日周四 下午6:38写道:
> > > >
> > > >> I think it is a good idea to decouple  the transformer from spark so
> > > that
> > > >> it can be used with other flow engines.
> > > >> Once you do that, then it is worth considering a much bigger play
> > rather
> > > >> than another incremental play.
> > > >> Given the scale of Hudi, we need to look at airflow, particularly in
> > the
> > > >> context of what google is doing with Composer, addressing
> autoscaling,
> > > >> scheduleing, monitoring, etc.
> > > >> You need all of that to manage a serious tetl/elt flow.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:25 PM vino yang <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Currently, Hudi has a component that has not been widely used:
> > > >> Transformer.
> > > >> > As we all know, before the original data fell into the data lake,
> a
> > > very
> > > >> > common operation is data preprocessing and ETL. This is also the
> > most
> > > >> > common use scenario of many computing engines, such as Flink and
> > > Spark.
> > > >> Now
> > > >> > that Hudi has taken advantage of the power of the computing
> engine,
> > it
> > > >> can
> > > >> > also naturally take advantage of its ability of data
> preprocessing.
> > We
> > > >> can
> > > >> > refactor the Transformer to make it become more flexible. To
> > > summarize,
> > > >> we
> > > >> > can refactor from the following aspects:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    - Decouple Transformer from Spark
> > > >> >    - Enrich the Transformer and provide built-in transformer
> > > >> >    - Support Transformer-chain
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For the first point, the Transformer interface is tightly coupled
> > with
> > > >> > Spark in design, and it contains a Spark-specific context. This
> > makes
> > > it
> > > >> > impossible for us to take advantage of the transform capabilities
> > > >> provided
> > > >> > by other engines (such as Flink) after supporting multiple
> engines.
> > > >> > Therefore, we need to decouple it from Spark in design.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For the second point, we can enhance the Transformer and provide
> > some
> > > >> > out-of-the-box Transformers, such as FilterTransformer,
> > > >> FlatMapTrnasformer,
> > > >> > and so on.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For the third point, the most common pattern for data processing
> is
> > > the
> > > >> > pipeline model, and the common implementation of the pipeline
> model
> > is
> > > >> the
> > > >> > responsibility chain model, which can be compared to the Apache
> > > commons
> > > >> > chain[1], combining multiple Transformers can make data-processing
> > > >> become
> > > >> > more flexible and expandable.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If we enhance the capabilities of Transformer components, Hudi
> will
> > > >> provide
> > > >> > richer data processing capabilities based on the computing engine.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What do you think?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any opinions and feedback are welcome and appreciated.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best,
> > > >> > Vino
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1]: https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-chain/
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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