Hi Vinoth,

Thanks for your in depth explanations. I think those details could be
of interest in the documentation. I can work on this if agreed

On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 14:36 -0700, Vinoth Chandar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that it finally landed. We actually began tracking that
> JIRA
> while initially writing Hudi at Uber.. Parquet + Bloom Filters has
> taken
> just a few years :)
> I think we could switch out to reading the built-in bloom filters as
> well.
> it could make the footer reading lighter potentially.
> 
> Few things that Hudi has built on top would be missing
> 
> - Dynamic bloom filter support, where we auto size current bloom
> filters
> based on number of records, given a fpp target
> - Our current DAG that optimizes for checking records against bloom
> filters
> is still needed on writer side. Checking bloom filters for a given
> predicate e.g id=19, is much simpler compared to matching say a 100k
> ids
> against 1000 files. We need to be able to amortize the cost of these
> 100M
> comparisons.
> 
> On the future direction, with 0.11, we are enabling storing of bloom
> filters and column ranges inside the Hudi metadata table (MDT).
> *(what we
> call multi modal indexes).
> This helps us make the access more resilient towards cloud storage
> throttling and also more performant (we need to read much fewer
> files)
> 
> Over time, when this mechanism is stable, we plan to stop writing out
> bloom
> filters in parquet and also integrate the Hudi MDT with different
> query
> engines for point-ish lookups.
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Thanks
> Vinoth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:57 AM Nicolas Paris
> <nicolas.pa...@riseup.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > spark 3.2 ships parquet 1.12 which provides built-in bloom filters
> > on
> > arbirtrary columns. I wonder if:
> > 
> > - hudi can benefit from them ? (likely in 0.11, but not with MOR
> > tables)
> > - would make sense to replace the hudi blooms with them ?
> > - what would be the advantage of storing our blooms in hfiles
> > (AFAIK
> >   this is the future expected implementation) over the parquet
> > built-in.
> > 
> > 
> > here is the syntax:
> > 
> >     .option("parquet.bloom.filter.enabled#favorite_color", "true")
> >     .option("parquet.bloom.filter.expected.ndv#favorite_color",
> > "1000000")
> > 
> > 
> > and here some code to illustrate :
> > 
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/e40fce919ab77f5faeb0bbd34dc86c56c04adbaa/sql/core/src/test/scala/org/apache/spark/sql/execution/datasources/parquet/ParquetFilterSuite.scala#L1654
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > thx
> > 

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