The update to the Iceberg site has been committed and deployed. Thanks for
fixing this, Jakob.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM Ryan Blue <rb...@netflix.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jokob! I've reviewed the PR and will commit it and redeploy the
> site once it's updated.
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:47 AM Jakob Homan <jgho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The website only lists the dev@, commits@ and private@ lists[1].  I've
>> opened a PR[2] to add the issues@ list to make it more visible to new
>> members of the community.
>>
>> -Jakob
>> [1] https://iceberg.incubator.apache.org/community/
>> [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-iceberg/pull/724
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:38 AM Ryan Blue <rb...@netflix.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Github updates are sent to iss...@iceberg.apache.org. Sorry for the
>> confusion. The background is that the notifications originally went to the
>> dev list, but the traffic was annoyingly high because it included not just
>> issue or PR creation, but also every individual comment. A few people let
>> us know that they were going to unsubscribe, so we created the issues list
>> for people that wanted to keep up that way. Here's what we reported about
>> it in our January 2019 board report:
>> >
>> > > Gitbox traffic is now going to issues@. The community was losing dev@
>> subscribers because of the high volume of traffic from Gitbox. However, now
>> all updates are sent to issues@. It would be nice to have emails from
>> creation go to dev@, while updates and resolutions would go the issues@.
>> >
>> > There is still a lot of traffic going to issues@, but you can use mail
>> filters to select what you'd like to see.
>> >
>> > I think it's generally okay that most discussion happens on pull
>> requests. I think that's a common pattern across communities for small
>> discussions, while larger discussions tend to happen on the dev list, like
>> the Iceberg community discussions about row-level deletes. Right now, we
>> have been primarily focusing on working on the things that we've already
>> discussed, like getting the vectorization code committed to master.
>> >
>> > rb
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:21 AM Anton Okolnychyi
>> <aokolnyc...@apple.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I also think it’s a good idea to have an email thread dedicated to
>> reviews/issues.
>> >>
>> >> - Anton
>> >>
>> >> > On 6 Jan 2020, at 17:06, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I also joined the dev@ list to keep abreast of what's going on in
>> >> > Iceberg. If all of the development activity is happening on GitHub
>> >> > issues and pull requests, then it seems like all of this activity
>> >> > should be mirrored to _some_ mailing list, for example
>> >> > github@iceberg.a.o. This creates a searchable archive of the
>> project's
>> >> > history which seems like the goal of the ASF's email list policy.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:09 AM Jim Apple <jbap...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Impala community is similar, with 50x more code review emails
>> than dev@. Every review and patchset (in Gerrit lingo) produces a new
>> email to reviews@.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://lists.apache.org/trends.html?d...@impala.apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://lists.apache.org/trends.html?revi...@impala.apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From my personal point of view, it’s possible that Impala should
>> have more design discussions on dev@, but given the volume of code
>> reviews and absent a deep culture and history of distinguishing between
>> what should just be in a code review and what needs to be in a dev@
>> design discussion, things seems to be in balance.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On my soapbox a bit, Gerrit seems to be a much more capable tool
>> that Github’s code review offerings. As a result, my opinion about the
>> balance of where discussions happen is colored by my love for Gerrit, as a
>> user.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:51 AM Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have a random comment on this project versus others I'm involved
>> in. This is not meant to be critical, it's just an observation.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It feels like very little discussion happens on the dev list other
>> than the random technical support email. Basically, all interaction is on
>> Github (?) but there are no notifications of Github ticket creations
>> against the dev list. If you look at the dev list, the last three months we
>> had email counts of Oct: 109, Nov: 35, Dec: 15. When I saw the ~35 prs
>> closed/month number in the report I was shocked given the lack of email on
>> the dev list.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What do other people think about this?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:28 AM Ryan Blue
>> <rb...@netflix.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi everyone,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I've posted the initial draft of our report to the IPMC. If you
>> have anything to add, please reply!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> rb
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --------------------
>> >> >>>> ## Iceberg
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Iceberg is a table format for large, slow-moving tabular data.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Iceberg has been incubating since 2018-11-16.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Three most important unfinished issues to address before
>> graduating:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  1. Grow the Iceberg community
>> >> >>>>  2. Add more committers and PPMC members
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be
>> aware of?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> No issues.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### How has the community developed since the last report?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> In the 4 months since the last report, 138 pull requests were
>> merged for an average of 34.5 per month. While this is down from the
>> previous monthly average of 49.6 per month for June through August, this
>> contribution rate is still very active and healthy. Contributions are
>> coming from a regular group of contributors outside of the initial set of
>> committers, which is a positive indication for adding new committers and
>> PPMC members over the next few months.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> The community released the first version of Apache Iceberg,
>> 0.7.0-incubating. This release used the "standard" incubator disclaimer and
>> included convenience binaries. The release candidate votes were very active
>> with community members testing out the release and reporting problems.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> There was an Apache Iceberg talk at ApacheCon NA in September.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### How has the project developed since the last report?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  - The community is building support for the upcoming Spark 3.0
>> release
>> >> >>>>  - The first PR from the vectorization branch has been merged
>> into master
>> >> >>>>  - Support for IN and NOT IN predicates was contributed
>> >> >>>>  - Python added support for Hive metastore tables and the read
>> path is near commit
>> >> >>>>  - Flaky tests have been fixed
>> >> >>>>  - Baseline checks (style, errorprone, findbugs) are now applied
>> to all modules
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>> >> >>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] Initial setup
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] Working towards first release
>> >> >>>>  - [x] Community building
>> >> >>>>  - [x] Nearing graduation
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] Other:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Date of last release:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  - 0.7.0-incubating was released 25 October 2019
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  - Anton Okolnychyi was added 30 August 2019
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Yes. 4 of 5 mentors voted on the 0.7.0-incubating IPMC vote.
>> Thanks to our mentors for being active!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Yes, the podling is managing the brand and is not aware of any
>> issues.
>> >> >>>> The project name has been approved.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ### Signed-off-by:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  - [x] (iceberg) Ryan Blue
>> >> >>>>     Comments:
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] (iceberg) Julien Le Dem
>> >> >>>>     Comments:
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] (iceberg) Owen O'Malley
>> >> >>>>     Comments:
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] (iceberg) James Taylor
>> >> >>>>     Comments:
>> >> >>>>  - [ ] (iceberg) Carl Steinbach
>> >> >>>>     Comments:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Ryan Blue
>> >> >>>> Software Engineer
>> >> >>>> Netflix
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ryan Blue
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Netflix
>>
>
>
> --
> Ryan Blue
> Software Engineer
> Netflix
>


-- 
Ryan Blue
Software Engineer
Netflix

Reply via email to