Sounds good! Looking forward to that!
-Jack

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:27 AM Sam Redai <s...@tabular.io> wrote:

> @Kyle thanks for the idea, we can definitely add that banner and have it
> driven by a site level latest version value so it can easily be set on each
> version release.
>
> @Jack that summary looks right to me. As to your idea of the "Next"
> version of the docs and to Russell's description, we could absolutely have
> an additional branch in the docs repo that reflects the next (yet to be
> released) version of the docs. It would be as simple as including an aptly
> named branch in the docs repo that always reflects the docs contained in
> iceberg repo proper (possibly through some daily/weekly action). So the
> branches in the iceberg docs repo could look something like this:
>
>    - latest
>    - next
>    - 0.12.1
>    - 0.12.0
>
> latest can be set as the default branch for the repo and would essentially
> be the result of a force push from 0.12.1 (and once 0.13.0 is released, a
> force push from the 0.13.0 branch, and so on and so on). The next branch
> could contain this next version that you were referring to, which is
> periodically updated with the docs contained in iceberg repo proper. As
> Ryan suggested, once a release happens, the docs can be copied over into a
> branch for that version. This would result in the following version routes:
>
> https://iceberg.apache.org/latest/docs
> https://iceberg.apache.org/next/docs
> https://iceberg.apache.org/0.12.1/docs
> https://iceberg.apache.org/0.12.0/docs
>
> We could also include redirects to from / to /latest/docs in order to not
> break permalinks. I'll work on getting all of this finalized and share a
> full summary of how the new site works as well as some developer docs on
> updating/releasing.
>
> -Sam
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:28 PM Russell Spitzer <russell.spit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good to me. To Confirm point 3: We have unpublished version docs
>> in Iceberg repo proper, and released version doc fixes target the new
>> repository.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>
>> I think that what Sam has put together is a good path forward for the
>> docs.
>>
>> We definitely want to keep the latest docs in the main repository so that
>> we can update them as part of normal pull requests. But at the same time, I
>> think we've all had some frustration when searching through files in the
>> repository because there are multiple copies of Javadocs there. And if we
>> wanted to keep more versions of the markdown docs, the problem would get
>> worse.
>>
>> By keeping just the docs that apply to master in the main iceberg repo,
>> we still have the normal maintenance workflow. Copying the docs over at
>> release time allows us to maintain each branch of docs separately for
>> updates, without polluting the main repo with several copies. It seems like
>> a win-win to me to copy docs and maintain them after that point.
>>
>> Does that seem reasonable to everyone?
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:54 AM Kyle Bendickson <k...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, the prototype looks great, Sam!
>>>
>>> I'd like to add a little bit about possible avenues for hosting to
>>> explore and other corner areas.
>>>
>>> I only have one thing to add:
>>>
>>> 1) For the latest docs, can we consider including a warning message on
>>> the page that this is for the master version.
>>>
>>> Apache Flink has this, and on several occasions it has helped me out.
>>> Their doc string reads: "This documentation is for an unreleased version of
>>> Apache Flink. We recommend you use the latest stable version <link to that
>>> version>".
>>>
>>> Overall the site looks great. Thank you, Sam!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:03 PM Sam Redai <s...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jack! To your questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. In addition to Hugo, I tried out Pelican and Gatsby. (“Tried out”
>>>> meaning spent an afternoon fooling around with it)
>>>>
>>>> Pelican felt easy to use but doing anything custom like a landing page
>>>> required a lot of theme and site config customizations. The live reloading
>>>> also felt sluggish once I added in all of the content.
>>>>
>>>> Gatsby seems really flexible and powerful but it requires some
>>>> knowledge of React that could discourage some community contributions
>>>> in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Hugo on the other hand, in a little over an hour I was able to get the
>>>> site together with the landing page, and another hour the next day I had
>>>> asciinema added and the versioned docs working via GitHub (all with no
>>>> prior experience with the framework). I definitely could have either of the
>>>> other frameworks misunderstood. Some other frameworks out there that I
>>>> haven’t looked deeply into are Jekyll, Hexo, and Nuxt. If anyone has strong
>>>> preferences for a particular framework, let me know and I can explore it
>>>> further.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The “latest” site is a branch itself. We can actually create as many
>>>> branches as we’d like and each would be deployed as a separate site. We
>>>> would just have to update the releases section to include the relevant
>>>> hrefs. One thing I forgot to mention is that PRs are also deployed and we
>>>> could do something clever here like include a link in the PR template that
>>>> links to how the PR changes looks fully deployed.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I was thinking we would keep a copy of the docs in the main iceberg
>>>> repo where the main commits occur. As part of the iceberg version release
>>>> process, the docs would be copied over to the iceberg-docs repo in a branch
>>>> named after the release version. Hotfixes or typo corrections for previous
>>>> versions could be done via pull requests directly to that branch in the
>>>> iceberg-docs repo. That being said, I believe it’s possible to keep the
>>>> docs in the same repo but it would require some magic that may feel
>>>> somewhat fragile. For example the branch names such as 0.12.x wouldn’t work
>>>> well if we want to have a different docs site for 0.12.0 and 0.12.1, we
>>>> could probably work around this by adding some kind of regex to the deploy
>>>> workflow and maybe use tags (
>>>> https://docs.github.com/en/actions/learn-github-actions/workflow-syntax-for-github-actions#filter-pattern-cheat-sheet
>>>> ).
>>>>
>>>> -Sam
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 5:59 PM Jack Ye <yezhao...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The website looks amazing, thanks for the work!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Some questions I have:
>>>>> 1. you mentioned that you compared a few different static site
>>>>> frameworks. Just for bookkeeping purposes, could you list what frameworks
>>>>> you have compared so that people can have more clarity over the decision
>>>>> for hugo?
>>>>> 2. In the website, I see the latest doc points to 0.12.1. Is it
>>>>> possible to have a version named "Next" that shows the latest doc in the
>>>>> master branch?
>>>>> 3. For the separation of docs to another repo, I remember we discussed
>>>>> the topic in the past and we decided to not do it because many people
>>>>> expressed that it's valuable for docs to be in the same repo so that they
>>>>> can easily view and edit it. Given that we now have the iceberg-docs repo,
>>>>> do we plan to run a sync job to copy the docs to that repo, or are you
>>>>> thinking about revisiting the decision to fully move the docs to
>>>>> iceberg-docs? It would be helpful if you can provide more details in this
>>>>> area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jack Ye
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 8:52 AM Sam Redai <s...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to bring to everyone's attention an issue that I opened
>>>>>> today that's a proposal for switching to using hugo for the iceberg
>>>>>> documentation site. https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/3616
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've deployed a prototype of what the site would look like and how it
>>>>>> achieves some things still left desired for the current docs site 
>>>>>> (landing
>>>>>> page, branch based versioning, etc). Please check it out when you have a
>>>>>> chance and let me know what you all think!
>>>>>> https://samredai.github.io/iceberg-docs-prototype/latest/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sam
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Blue
>> Tabular
>>
>>
>>

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