That sounds like a good idea to me.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jack Ye <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I think the issue is that all of the built-in catalogs currently call
> the version of `newTableMetadata` that defaults to v1.
>
> Yes I think this seems like the key issue for the catalogs that extend
> BaseMetastoreCatalog. Looks like we should make changes to make the default
> format version a catalog property, instead of hard-coded in TableMetadata?
>
> -Jack
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 11:47 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabor,
>>
>> It makes sense to me. AFAIK, as the tables creation comes from catalog
>> "controller", they can "decide" the version. So, it would be each
>> catalog to deal with the way/version they want to create tables.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 11:11 PM Gabor Kaszab <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Naively asking, can't we add some property to tell Iceberg which
>> version to use as default when creating tables? (If there is no such
>> setting currently)
>> >
>> > Gabor
>> >
>> > Jack Ye <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. jan. 11., Sze
>> 20:04):
>> >>
>> >> Should we start a community vote on this?
>> >>
>> >> I remember in today's community sync meeting Russell briefly discussed
>> about some compaction supports that are not there yet and some users are
>> struggled with small delete files issue, and it was to some extent why
>> Spark is still defaulting v1.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding feature side, changelog scan is mostly there in Spark, and
>> there will also likely be movements on Trino side for it very soon.
>> >>
>> >> Overall, I think it would be beneficial to move default to v2, which
>> could incentivize the completion of those missing parts across engines.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Jack Ye
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:47 AM Piotr Findeisen <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW Trino already creates v2 tables by default.
>> >>> Thought it's worth sharing for context.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best
>> >>> PF
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:09 AM Manu Zhang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We've maintained a forked Iceberg internally and all our use cases
>> involve v2 tables with row-level updates and deletes. Our users need to
>> remember to create table with the `'format-version'='2'` option or alter
>> table afterwards.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm thinking about changing the default format-version of our forked
>> Iceberg to v2 . Is there any concern for this change? Any hidden issues
>> I've missed?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Manu
>>
>

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