+1 for using test-jar!

-Jack

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 10:48 AM Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> wrote:

> I think I'd be fine exposing this through a test Jar, but it seems to me
> that if we were to put it into a normal package it would turn into the
> situation we want to avoid. People would use it for unintended purposes and
> it would become a distraction.
>
> What do you think about using the tests Jar for this?
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:48 PM Jack Ye <yezhao...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, sorry I did not make it clear, I also agree it is not the right
>> direction to invest a lot of community effort. I am more talking about
>> casual use cases like importing a server for unit tests outside Iceberg,
>> running some local debugging, etc. I think it would be valuable to provide
>> a server in Iceberg for that purpose, and maybe vend it as test utils.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -Jack
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:35 AM Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> wrote:
>>
>>> > I know we have the RESTCatalogAdapter and RESTCatalogSevlet for unit
>>> tests, and technically we have a very similar Jetty server implementation
>>> in TestRESTCatalog. Should we think about making those components out of
>>> the tests into an iceberg-rest-server module for this use case, and merge
>>> with the implementation that Gravitino has?
>>>
>>> I think that this would take the Iceberg project in the wrong direction.
>>> Iceberg has always been a library and I think it should continue to be.
>>> Concerns about runtime should be left to other projects that need to fit
>>> into existing infrastructure or skillsets of people maintaining them. The
>>> question of whether to use Jetty or Tomcat or whatever else is a serious
>>> consideration, as is how to monitor that application and send metrics. I
>>> think it would slow down the core purpose of Iceberg if we got distracted
>>> by these things.
>>>
>>> In fact, I think that this project shows that the library is getting the
>>> balance right: it is using `CatalogHandlers` for their intended purpose. It
>>> has opinions about how to run the actual HTTP service and people that agree
>>> can use it. Other people could use `CatalogHandlers` to build on a
>>> different foundation.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:13 AM Jack Ye <yezhao...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really cool project!
>>>>
>>>> I browsed a bit of the codebase, and see this implementation of the
>>>> REST service backend:
>>>> -
>>>> https://github.com/datastrato/gravitino/blob/main/catalogs/catalog-lakehouse-iceberg/src/main/java/com/datastrato/gravitino/catalog/lakehouse/iceberg/IcebergRESTService.java#L39
>>>> -
>>>> https://github.com/datastrato/gravitino/blob/main/catalogs/catalog-lakehouse-iceberg/src/main/java/com/datastrato/gravitino/catalog/lakehouse/iceberg/ops/IcebergTableOps.java#L42-L51
>>>>
>>>>  Looks like it is initializing a Jetty server that uses CatalogHandlers
>>>> to delegate the execution to a specific Java Catalog implementation.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is actually something that is lacking today in Iceberg,
>>>> which is an easy way for users to start an actual REST HTTP server.
>>>>
>>>> I know we have the RESTCatalogAdapter and RESTCatalogSevlet for unit
>>>> tests, and technically we have a very similar Jetty server implementation
>>>> in TestRESTCatalog. Should we think about making those components out of
>>>> the tests into an iceberg-rest-server module for this use case, and merge
>>>> with the implementation that Gravitino has?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jack Ye
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:47 AM Yufei Gu <flyrain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Justin for the sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty cool to see an open source REST catalog implementation in
>>>>> action. Having dabbled a bit in the early development of Gravitino myself,
>>>>> I'm really excited about its potential with the Iceberg REST catalog.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea of Gravitino moving to an ASF project is promising. It’ll
>>>>> surely boost its visibility and open up more doors for collaboration and
>>>>> adoption.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to where this goes. Keep up the fantastic work!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yufei
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 5:55 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I talked with Junping a couple of months ago about Gravitino. Thanks
>>>>>> for sharing !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:15 AM Justin Mclean <
>>>>>> jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We open-sourced a new project, Gravitino, in December and have been
>>>>>> working on growing the community and adding new functionality. We plan to
>>>>>> donate the project to the ASF this year. Gravitino is a unified metadata
>>>>>> lake solution offering a unified approach to managing datasets from 
>>>>>> diverse
>>>>>> sources and regions across multiple cloud platforms. Its core is an 
>>>>>> Iceberg
>>>>>> REST catalog service implementation to manage Iceberg tables efficiently.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If this sounds like something you would be interested in, then the
>>>>>> following resources will help:
>>>>>> > -  Blog post:
>>>>>> https://datastrato.ai/blog/gravitino-iceberg-rest-catalog-service/
>>>>>> > -  Gravitino documentation: https://datastrato.ai/docs/0.3.1/
>>>>>> > -  Iceberg REST service documentation:
>>>>>> https://datastrato.ai/docs/0.3.1/iceberg-rest-service
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We welcome any feedback and suggestions you have, and as always,
>>>>>> all contributions are welcome. You can find the source code at
>>>>>> https://github.com/datastrato/gravitino.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kind Regards,
>>>>>> > Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>>> Ryan Blue
>>> Tabular
>>>
>>
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