We had a separate discussion with Dan on the *oauth2* flag last week and
came to the same conclusion that removing the *oauth2* capability is
probably the best for now.
This is mainly because we can't really act on the *oauth2* capability right
now, because the */tokens* endpoint is called before we hit the */config*
endpoint.

> Another option would be just list all endpoints (and maybe even further
which operations are supported) the server actually supports and let
clients take appropriate actions (i.e. grouping could happen on the client
side).  This could be done by vending the OpenAPI spec the server supports
at its own endpoint. I think this avoids the future problem of having to
classify new endpoints into a specific capability.

@Micah this sounds to me as if the client would then have to parse a bunch
of endpoints to figure out whether it's safe to e.g. call loading a view or
dropping a table on the given REST server. Rather than having a dedicated
endpoint we're just using the */config* endpoint to provide information
about what a server supports.

Thanks
Eduard

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 8:27 PM Ryan Blue <b...@databricks.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Let's remove the oauth2 tag for now until we figure out how to move
> forward there. That makes sense to me.
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 9:30 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov
> <dmitri.bourlatch...@dremio.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eduard,
>>
>> The capabilities PR looks good to me overall. I have a concern with the
>> "oauth2" tag name though.
>>
>> I also commented [1] in GH but the comment appears to be closed by
>> default :)
>>
>> I believe the term "oauth2" is confusing in this context with respect to
>> RFC 6749 [2] as discussed in depth on another thread [3]
>>
>> The functionality behind the /tokens endpoint is quite specific to the
>> Iceberg REST spec and as the other discussion highlights, there are
>> concerns with respect to OAuth2 interoperability with other OAuth2 servers.
>>
>> What do you think about using a different tag name for it, for example
>> "local-tokens" or "auth-tokens"?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dmitri.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/9940/files/15c769a52b85ac4deff5659978c7ffa7802612b0#r1649173934
>> [2] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6749
>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/twk84xx7v0xy5q5tfd9x5torgr82vv50
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 7:28 AM Eduard Tudenhoefner <
>> etudenhoef...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring up the discussion around describing REST server
>>> capabilities via the */config* endpoint.
>>> There is PR #9940 <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/9940> that
>>> describes the OpenAPI spec changes.
>>>
>>> Mainly we'd like to have a *capabilities* field in the *ConfigResponse* that
>>> allows servers to indicate to clients which capabilities are being
>>> supported.
>>>
>>> So far we have the following capabilities:
>>>
>>>    - tables
>>>    - views
>>>    - remote-signing
>>>    - vended-credentials
>>>    - multi-table-commit
>>>    - register-table
>>>    - table-metrics
>>>    - oauth2
>>>
>>>
>>> The general idea behind a capability is that if e.g. a server supports
>>> *views*, then that server must implement all endpoints grouped under
>>> that capability.
>>> It's worth noting that the */config* endpoint is currently being
>>> implicit (meaning that every REST server would have to implement it).
>>>
>>> One discussion point that came up during review is how we want to handle
>>> capabilities and backwards compatibility and what the default capability
>>> would be, since older servers don't know anything about *capabilities* (in
>>> such a case we could assume that the default capabilities would be
>>> *oauth2* / *tables*).
>>>
>>> Are there any other capabilities that we'd like to include in the list?
>>>
>>> Eduard
>>>
>>
>
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> Ryan Blue
> Databricks
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