https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/10745 should not be bound to 1.8.0
either?

Regards,
Manu

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:36 PM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote:

> That shouldn't be included. There is still active discussion on the PR,
> and it needs more work. The author also removed the milestone. The VOTE is
> out, so we can start verifying.
>
> Kind regards,
> Fokko
>
> Op ma 10 feb 2025 om 05:41 schreef Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com>:
>
>> There's still https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/11216 under 1.8.0
>> milestone.
>> Do we want to include it?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 3:01 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Amogh
>>>
>>> I updated the PR with some cleanups.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 4:04 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks JB I left a review, it'll be good to get another set of eyes on
>>> it! Thank you for surfacing and fixing these issues, it's very appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 12:50 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Here's the PR: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12195 for ref.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >> JB
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 5:48 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi Amogh,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I found issues in the LICENSE/NOTICE from kafka-connect-runtime
>>> >> > distribution (what's in the distribution zip). AFAIR, we plan to
>>> >> > distribute this distribution, so it should be fixed.
>>> >> > I will open a PR about that today.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry about that.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Regards
>>> >> > JB
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:35 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Hey all,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > An update, the final License/Notice release blockers are merged
>>> (big thanks to JB, and Ryan/Fokko for helping review)! I'm in transit at
>>> the moment, but once I get to a place with stable wifi I will cut a release
>>> candidate.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Thanks,
>>> >> > > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 2:23 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <
>>> 2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Agreed, I wouldn't be opposed to looking into approaches to make
>>> release times more predictable. At the same time, I'd advocate that in the
>>> community, that anyone can propose a release at any point in time. Of
>>> course, we can discuss as a community and make sure there's a reasonable
>>> changeset, as well as focus review time on PRs which are close to being
>>> ready for that release.
>>> >> > >> To some degree this contradicts having a predictable release
>>> schedule, but I feel like we can really just have a hybrid "Periodic
>>> release + arbitrary off-cycle release" approach and things won't get too
>>> crazy. It's a way to get the best of both frequency of release and user
>>> expectations on release times.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> An update on 1.8 to the community, we're working on updating
>>> LICENSE/NOTICE files in the AWS/GCP/Azure bundles, thank you JB for driving
>>> that. It's something we need to get in for the release. Once that's in, I
>>> will cut the RC.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Thanks,
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Amogh Jahagirdar
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:16 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Hi Amogh,
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Thanks !
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> I agree we should have more frequent releases, but also more
>>> >> > >>> "predictable" release time and give visibility to the community
>>> >> > >>> (especially users).
>>> >> > >>> Some ASF projects are providing "tables" with release plans:
>>> >> > >>> - https://camel.apache.org/download/
>>> >> > >>> - https://karaf.apache.org/download.html
>>> >> > >>> - https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/download/
>>> >> > >>> - ...
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Maybe we can provide something similar ?
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Thanks !
>>> >> > >>> Regards
>>> >> > >>> JB
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 1:07 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <
>>> 2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > Hey all,
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > Just following up here with a bit of a status update, so in
>>> the past week or so, items in the 1.8 release milestone have been closing
>>> out.
>>> >> > >>> > I'm aiming to cut a release next Tuesday, Jan 28.
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > I'd like to reiterate that for any changes that don't make
>>> the 1.8 release, we can do a fast follow 1.9 release, and from the last
>>> community sync that seems to be the direction.
>>> >> > >>> > In this particular case, the 1.8 release is a bit earlier
>>> than our typical release cadence and with the 1.9 being a fast follow on, I
>>> think we're well on track.
>>> >> > >>> > Please add the proposed changes to the 1.9 milestone so folks
>>> can review ahead of time!
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > In general, I'd encourage more frequent releases, changes
>>> which are ready can just go out and with the smaller diff it reduces the
>>> risks that exist with larger updates.
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > Thanks,
>>> >> > >>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:05 AM Daniel Weeks <
>>> dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> Robert,
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> I hear your frustration with the progress on the Auth
>>> Manager work, but I believe everyone recognizes that this was a large
>>> refactor further complicated by the need to preserve backward compatibility
>>> and handling deprecations appropriately.  This work has gone through many
>>> iterations as we explored how to make the changes cleanly.  Eventually the
>>> scale of the change led to breaking up the PR for closer review, which I
>>> believe was the right decision because we identified multiple issues after
>>> taking that step.  That may have slowed down progress, but a lot of hours
>>> have gone into discussing, reviewing, and validating the work in this area.
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> As a project, we have leaned away from gating releases on
>>> specific features because it leads to slower release cycles and prevents
>>> other features that are ready from going out.  We also don't want to rush
>>> features just to hit a release target, but rather release more frequently
>>> to make changes available as they are ready.
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> At this point, I believe the plan is to follow up soon with
>>> a 1.9 release.
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> -Dan
>>> >> > >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:36 AM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> Hey,
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> IMHO 1.8 should definitely include the Auth-Manager work,
>>> which tackles
>>> >> > >>> >>> actual bugs in the Iceberg code base wrt OAuth
>>> implementation. That work
>>> >> > >>> >>> was originally intended to go into 1.7 and now it shall be
>>> delayed again
>>> >> > >>> >>> for 1.9. The PR was originally opened in July 2024, about
>>> half a year
>>> >> > >>> >>> ago and is still getting reviewed. In the meantime there
>>> were more than
>>> >> > >>> >>> 600 other PRs that got reviewed and merged.
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> The overall agreement around spring 2024, please correct me
>>> if I am
>>> >> > >>> >>> wrong, was the whole REST/OAuth area needs to be improved,
>>> and the oauth
>>> >> > >>> >>> endpoint removed entirely.
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> Generally speaking, and I know I'm not alone, getting
>>> reviews from
>>> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committers is extremely hard. A lot of issues and
>>> PRs just get
>>> >> > >>> >>> closed (by that stale bot) without having gotten _any_
>>> attention from an
>>> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committer. This is not a new situation but going on
>>> for a long
>>> >> > >>> >>> time. I have been talking to two Iceberg PMC members in
>>> person many
>>> >> > >>> >>> months ago that this is a very disappointing situation that
>>> needs to be
>>> >> > >>> >>> fixed. The reply was always "we are already working on it"
>>> - but at
>>> >> > >>> >>> least from my personal POV the situation did not improve.
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> Robert
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> On 16.01.25 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Hi folks,
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Following the Community Meeting yesterday, I would like
>>> to propose the
>>> >> > >>> >>> > following plan regarding releases:
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 0. As a prerequisite to any release (1.7.2, 1.8.0,
>>> 1.9.0), as said by
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Ryan, we have to double check the NOTICE/LICENSE.
>>> Interestingly, I
>>> >> > >>> >>> > discussed this point with Fokko at the beginning of this
>>> week, because
>>> >> > >>> >>> > I have some doubts about LICENSE/NOTICE content in the
>>> "uber" jar
>>> >> > >>> >>> > artifacts where we shade dependencies. I'm doing a
>>> complete pass on
>>> >> > >>> >>> > all artifacts in 1.7.2-SNAPSHOT and 1.8.0-SNAPSHOT. I
>>> should have a
>>> >> > >>> >>> > complete analysis by tomorrow. This is potentially a
>>> blocker for
>>> >> > >>> >>> > release votes.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1. As soon as (0) is done, 1.7.2 can be submitted to
>>> vote. I will work
>>> >> > >>> >>> > with Fokko on this one.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 2. We plan to do 1.8.0 in a couple of weeks (Amogh is the
>>> release
>>> >> > >>> >>> > manager). Due to still some WIP, we "revisited" the 1.8.0
>>> release
>>> >> > >>> >>> > content: for instance, as best effort, we wanted to
>>> include REST Auth
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Manager improvement (OAuth2 Manager) but we preferred to
>>> postpone to
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0. That's totally fine to me, however, I would
>>> propose to strongly
>>> >> > >>> >>> > focus on pending PRs for 1.9.0. Imho, we should "target"
>>> (again as
>>> >> > >>> >>> > clear best effort) on variant, partition stats and Auth
>>> Manager.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 3. Assuming 1.8.0 will be released at the end of
>>> Jan/beginning of Feb,
>>> >> > >>> >>> > according to our "release cadence", what do you think
>>> about planning
>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0 in April ? Again with the main targets listed in
>>> (2).
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > I tried to sum up what we discussed yesterday :)
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Thoughts ?
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > Regards
>>> >> > >>> >>> > JB
>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Hi folks,
>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> We did Apache Iceberg 1.7.0 release on Nov 8, 2024. If
>>> we want to keep
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> our release "pace", 1.8.0 should be released around mid
>>> February.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> I think we already have a good "train" of merged PRs (or
>>> should be
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> merged soon): default values, REST auth improvements,
>>> dependencies
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> updates, etc.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> WDYT about 1.8.0 mid Feb ? If so, I propose we update
>>> GitHub Issues
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> and PRs we would like to "target" to 1.8.0.
>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Thoughts ?
>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Regards
>>> >> > >>> >>> >> JB
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>> >> > >>> >>> --
>>> >> > >>> >>> Robert Stupp
>>> >> > >>> >>> @snazy
>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>
>>

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