Sorry! I meant to say also that I am fully in favor of completely removing/deprecating this. But since we deprecated Position Deletes in V3 we probably already have this covered?
On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 11:06 AM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote: > PyIceberg doesn't produce it, or uses it at the planning phase. Curious if > there is any library that actually uses this. > > I do agree with Russell, and maybe deprecating this at the spec > level makes more sense. > > Kind regards, > Fokko > > Op di 19 aug 2025 om 17:54 schreef Russell Spitzer < > russell.spit...@gmail.com>: > >> I'm not sure we can deprecate the column in a library version update, but >> currently it is marked as optional >> and I don't think the Apache Java Library even has a way of writing or >> reading them. >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 10:15 AM Péter Váry <peter.vary.apa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> During the last community sync (30/07), we discussed the current state >>> of the File Format API proposal [1] and found that implementing the writers >>> for Positional Deletes where the actual row data is provided would >>> complicate things quite a bit. >>> >>> The current Iceberg V2 spec [2] defines two types of position delete >>> files: >>> >>> 1. Files that store only the file name and row position. >>> 2. Files that also store the deleted row data. >>> >>> The 1st type of the position deletes are widely used. The 2nd type of >>> deletes is defined in the spec and some tests exist in the Iceberg >>> codebase, but we’re not aware of any actual implementation using the second >>> type (position delete files with row data). Supporting writing V2 tables >>> via the new File Format API would be simpler if we dropped support for this >>> feature. >>> >>> I would like to hear of any uses of these delete files. If we can not >>> find use-cases, then *I propose to deprecate position delete files with >>> embedded row data starting from Iceberg 2.0.* >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Peter >>> >>> [1] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/ovyh52m2b6c1hrg4fhw3rx92bzr793n2 >>> [2] - Position Delete File Spec: >>> https://iceberg.apache.org/spec/?h=delete#position-delete-files >>> >>
